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N96 SHAKER Challengers #48563
12/06/07 08:17 PM
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Here’s what I know about N96 Challengers. I WILL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT 100% ACCURATE DUE TO THE RECORD KEEPING THAT WAS DONE BACK IN THE DAY.

In 1970 there were the following:

184 Total
164 R/T’s, 15 R/T SE’s, and 5 R/T Convertibles
The ONLY engines could be the 383, 440-4, 440-6, or 426 Hemi
There are NO R/T’s with a 340 in 1970


In 1971 there were the following:

224 Total
72 JH non R/T (340 or 383)
11 JH Convertibles (no R/T converts in 1971)
39 R/T Small Block (340)
102 R/T Big Block (383, 440-6, or 426 Hemi)

There are three different Challenger Shaker Hoods

Early 1970 (Before early to mid October, 1969) with NO crush zones w/raised boss for triangle emblem

Late 1970 (after April 15th) and 1971 with crush zones w/raised boss for triangle emblem

Late 1971 (or more likely over the counter part) with crush zones but NO raised boss for triangle emblem

There seems to be NO 1970 N96 Challengers known to exist that were built between October 11th, 1969 and April 15th, 1970. I have seen a few examples but they NEVER have a Broadcast Sheet or Documentation.

I have a fairly large database of N96 Challengers and I’m always looking for more information. If you own one please contact me so I can add yours!

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Hi Daniel,

Thanks for this GREAT info.I ordered a 70 Challenger spring of 1970, R/T 440-6 super trac pac with a Shaker Hood.
Guess what,it came without the Shaker Hood.
I had a fight with the salesman and he told me that he could not get that hood.Wish he told me that before I ordered the car.
Bob


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There seems to be NO 1970 N96 Challengers known to exist that were built between October 11th, 1969 and April 15th, 1970. I have seen a few examples but they NEVER have a Broadcast Sheet or Documentation.

Here's a possible explanation: My 70 Challenger dealer coding guide, dated 10-69, does not list N96. It must have been added to the option list at a later date.

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There are several N96 Challengers built between the start of the production year (August 1st) and October 10th. The problem was the early hoods didn't have the crush zones and it wasn't until mid April until they got hoods that did.

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Thanks for the clarification!

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Daniel I have a figure that 48 1971 Challengers sold new in Canada got a shaker hood. I also use to collect a lot of 1970 Hemi Challenger information and from memory there were 5 cars that got shaker hoods between Mid Oct. till April 10 when production was to begin again. If I remember correctly there were 3 in Dec. and 2 in Feb.The Dec. cars were two on one day and one on another around the 5-6th.The Feb.cars were on the 21st or 22nd. build date. I use to have around 175 1970 Hemi Challenger serial numbers collected that included both R/Ts and R/T-S/Es and another 13 Real Hemi Challenger Convt serial numbers along with 5 fakes.


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Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: hemicar1971] #48569
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Daniel I have a figure that 48 1971 Challengers sold new in Canada got a shaker hood. I also use to collect a lot of 1970 Hemi Challenger information and from memory there were 5 cars that got shaker hoods between Mid Oct. till April 10 when production was to begin again. If I remember correctly there were 3 in Dec. and 2 in Feb.The Dec. cars were two on one day and one on another around the 5-6th.The Feb.cars were on the 21st or 22nd. build date. I use to have around 175 1970 Hemi Challenger serial numbers collected that included both R/Ts and R/T-S/Es and another 13 Real Hemi Challenger Convt serial numbers along with 5 fakes.




What ever happend to Pete Haldiman's FC7 70 Hemi Challenger. IIRC, Pete put a shaker on it but it wasn't original. Car was on the cover of Hot Rod Magazine with a bikini clad girl hanging out the window. It was a no-tip turn down exhaust car, black int, console auto, rallyes, no stripes, no vinyl top.

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It seems like through the years I've seen more than 11 71 Convertibles with a Shaker. Maybe it's just because they tend to grab your attention more than others.

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from memory there were 5 cars that got shaker hoods between Mid Oct. till April 10 when production was to begin again. If I remember correctly there were 3 in Dec. and 2 in Feb.The Dec. cars were two on one day and one on another around the 5-6th.The Feb.cars were on the 21st or 22nd. build date.




That's very interesting. I have never seen a single 1970 Challenger N96 car built between 10-11-69 and 4-14-70 that had a Broadcast Sheet or Window Sticker to back it up. I'm not saying that there were none built, rather I'd love to find out if there are any out there that are legit.

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There seems to be NO 1970 N96 Challengers known to exist that were built between October 11th, 1969 and April 15th, 1970




Mine 1970 N96 was REALLY close, only one day later,,, Broadcast sheet April 16th 1970 and Fender tag April 16th 1970.

I wish someone would post more information on the SHAKER cars. Thanks for the info also.

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: EV2DEMON] #48573
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It seems like through the years I've seen more than 11 71 Convertibles with a Shaker. Maybe it's just because they tend to grab your attention more than others.




There's at least 3 71 Challenger shaker convertibles in Ontario that are not included in the 11...


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Great post, Daniel! I think you have all of the info on mine, but it is a 71 R/T, 383, 4-speed, FC7, white stripe and interior, no console, shaker, wing, and 3.91 axle package.

Maybe this should be a picture thread... here's mine. Not much to look at, but I love it anyway!

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I really appreciate having someone like you around to answer another Shaker question. IF a 70 Challenger had a Shaker hood, would it ALWAYS have an N96 designation on the fender tag?

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I really appreciate having someone like you around to answer another Shaker question. IF a 70 Challenger had a Shaker hood, would it ALWAYS have an N96 designation on the fender tag?




I would say yes. It's very possible that it was a dealer added thing, or maybe the original owner added it early on. Now if you had a Broadcast Sheet of Window Sticker that said N96...Then who knows? There is no certainty in the world of Mopar Muscle Cars.

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There's at least 3 71 Challenger shaker convertibles in Ontario that are not included in the 11...




Alan, Why is it that they wouldn't be part of the 11? Is there any documentation that Canadian cars weren't part of these production numbers that have been around forever? Please do not forget that I am the first to admit that these numbers are probably not written in stone.

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There's at least 3 71 Challenger shaker convertibles in Ontario that are not included in the 11...




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Alan, Why is it that they wouldn't be part of the 11? Is there any documentation that Canadian cars weren't part of these production numbers that have been around forever?




I always thought that in general terms, most if not all published production figures never included CDN exported cars? I guess I'm wrong to assume that's true
EXAMPLE: Galen's white book says there are 237 440+6 71 Cuda's made, with no mention of Canada, yet there are 30 more sold new in Canada.
Three years ago he had 82 registered That's like 35%
Oops sorry..we're talking about Challengers


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One more question on this subject Daniel. I am working with a numbers matching 70 hemi 4 speed Challenger with a Shaker, built in December. The hood does have the crush zone but the fender does not show N96. Should I assume (hate to do that) that the hood was added on? By the way, this really is a great post - thanks.

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I have alway been told that the production figures you quoted Daniel were USA only.I was told this by Chrysler Historical back in the late Seventies.That is why I put up those numbers for the Canadian 1971 Challengers.Alan and I agree the figures for Canadian cars are not in the USA production figures and he is right there are atleast 3 1971 Convt. Challengers with shakers in Ontario.I know of one Export 1971 Hemi Challenger with a Shaker also,so that would also not he in those USA figures.This is like stating Hemi Production numbers for 1971 Challengers. 70-71 1971 Hemi Challengers sold new in the USA there is a question of just how many exactly by one car because it is amassed of a percentage of cars. 5 1971 Hemi Challengers sold new in Canada, know to be correct. 2 know export 1971 Hemi Challengers.That would make either 77 or 78 total 1971 Hemi Challengers known but the USA production figures state 70or 71 Hemi Challenger built.

Daniel I am not sure if I still have the information about what cars exactly got the shaker hoods in Dec and Feb. I believe I have sent a list of 1970 Hemi Challengers,serial numbers only that I collected from 1977 till about 1992 to Ola Niellson for his registery.I can try to see if I can find that list and send it to you if you like,not sure if you still are into that 1970 Hemi Challenger stuff since you sold your wheels.


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There is always a possibility its a real shaker car.Look at the N96 on the Fender Tag,if you have the broadcast sheet look under N column then look for the 9 and see if 6 is under the nine.Then look at the body of the car to see if there is a hole drilled in for the shaker cable.Next look to see if you have the under padding from the car and look for a factory punch hole so a shaker cable could go in it.I have seen 1970 Challenger that did not come with a shaker that have had the hole in the fire wall from the factory,just a mistake at the production plant,but there are a lot of mistakes,remember they were only cars back then to someone working on the line.I have also seen options on the fender tag and not on the broadcast sheet and vise versa.

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Hemi, as I mentioned, the fender tag does NOT have the N96 and I do not have a build sheet. This is why I am wondering if this was an original shaker hood car. What are your thoughts?

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