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E-body muffler shields #48168
11/20/07 06:49 PM
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On the E-body muffler shields besides the fuel tank , these were originally galvanized correct ?
where as the NOS over the counter replacements are primered

How are the current repops finished ?

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: gtx6970] #48169
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Hi bill I just bought a set and they are galvanized
Drew

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: LemonTwiist] #48170
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Drew,
Where did you buy your set?
Ray

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: gtx6970] #48171
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Originals were cold galvanized, the repop I saw a couple of years ago were hot galvanized.


Amazing how an unchallenged lie can become the absolute truth.
Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: beepbeep] #48172
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Also the ones I found for my car,the top of the sheild,that goes against the floor pan have some type of red oxide? coating.

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #48173
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Who makes the repops?


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Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #48174
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Also the ones I found for my car,the top of the sheild,that goes against the floor pan have some type of red oxide? coating.






We call that rust in Ohio!

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: 6pkaar] #48175
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Where can you get repro HEATSHIELDS???

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Dale's Cuda Shop has them, but I can't remember if his are galvanized or not

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: LemonTwiist] #48177
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Is Dale's Cuda Shop still around? I called last August several times and never got an answer or recording. While in Canton-Akron area which is just minutes away from Alliance ,Ohio where Dale's is (or was) I looked them up in the phone book and found nothing.

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Is Dale's Cuda Shop still around? I called last August several times and never got an answer or recording. While in Canton-Akron area which is just minutes away from Alliance ,Ohio where Dale's is (or was) I looked them up in the phone book and found nothing.





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Dale told me once the best way to get a hold of him was to send a fax. I don't know if that's still the case and I don't have the number handy. Sorry

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: Scott Mopar] #48180
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Is Dale's Cuda Shop still around? I called last August several times and never got an answer or recording. While in Canton-Akron area which is just minutes away from Alliance ,Ohio where Dale's is (or was) I looked them up in the phone book and found nothing.




Call this number: (330) 823-2776

If you don't get someone, don't worry... just try them a few times. It's his son and he is able to sell you Dale's Cuda Shop stuff.... I just got some AAR stripes from him.

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #48181
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so i wonder how you would reproduce the GALVANIZED look. i need to do it also?

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Pete's Resto offered a galvanized service at one time that was close.His was a cold dip I believe were the original was a hot dip galvanized?? By the way,anybody seen Pete??

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #48183
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Thanks for the information! That is the number I've called in the past. I'll just keep calling and hopefully catch them. I have their fax,but don't have access to a machine....330-823-6605.
I didn't make it to Nat.'s this summer-were they there?

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: Scott Mopar] #48184
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There's a link for Dales on moparts front page under vendors. Its also listed at Quicksilver

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: LemonTwiist] #48185
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Thanks LemonTwiist. Saw it up there and went to it.There is a new phone number listed,so I'll give it a try tomorrow.

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Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: Scott Mopar] #48186
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Original muffler heat shields were of course electro-galvanized. Thin and extremely hard. Components such as the auto trans dust shields and license plate holders are done the same way. As far as I know, there are no LEGAL (RE: EPA issues) avenues to RE-DO electro-galvanizing. To do it properly, you would need to strip it anyway, if that is even possible. Electro-galvanized FINISHED PRODUCTS (such as some types of buckets etc.) today are made from material, typically sheets, that have ALREADY gone through the treatment process, and then are sheared/cut/stamped/whatever to arrive at the finished product it was destined to be. There are all sorts of specs for the treatment, and this determines the protection level as well as the appearance. Aesthetically, this is seen as what I call the "large-leaf" or "small-leaf" pattern. Typically, what is seen on the items specific to Mopars has the "large-leaf" pattern, but it can vary.

I have a set of shields I brought in from Year One 3-4 years ago for a customer (I could never get Dale on the phone). They are NOT galvanized. Whether that has changed, I do not know.

NOS shields are typically "large-leaf" galvanized with red oxide over the top (what the motive for the added primer is, I have no idea).

Hot-Dip is done just as the name implies. Generally softer, thicker and sloppy, and used more for severe environments. I have a local company that does it (what a horrible place: I would not even go all of the way into the building), and this was used on the unique parking brake cable connector for 71-72 E/B-Body that I reproduce.

Bill Rolik

Re: E-body muffler shields [Re: bremotorsports] #48187
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Quote:

NOS shields are typically "large-leaf" galvanized with red oxide over the top (what the motive for the added primer is, I have no idea).





Here is a set of NOS heat shields that I have. With the quality of the primer application at it's usual standard, we can have a peek at the galvinized finish under it...

It appears to be "small leaf" in this case, but that probably depended on the vendor for a particular run of parts.

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