Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/27/09 09:11 AM
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THe shuttle valve somehow controls accumulator pressure on 2-1 downshifts, or something like that. Having it blocked will probably firm up the shifts and definetly won't cause any issues with the TF-2 kit. The Accumulator spring can be removed but should add a steel rod under the piston to eliminate any movment. This would further firm up shifts. Does it look like it has an aftermarket seperator plate ? Would most likly be gold anidize if it was. AG
1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy.
1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno.
1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/27/09 11:47 AM
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hey dude i have put together lots of 727's for street and race over the past 20 years and i can tell you that the accum spring is not required at all for any 727 even a stocker, i always through them away all it does is absorb hydrolic shock in the main hyd system and that is the last thing you want to happen it will improve yer shifts and extend clutch life.
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/27/09 11:50 AM
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THe shuttle valve somehow controls accumulator pressure on 2-1 downshifts, or something like that. Having it blocked will probably firm up the shifts and definetly won't cause any issues with the TF-2 kit. The Accumulator spring can be removed but should add a steel rod under the piston to eliminate any movment. This would further firm up shifts. Does it look like it has an aftermarket seperator plate ? Would most likly be gold anidize if it was. AG
Ok for the rod, any suggestion for approx diameter? It is gold but more like cadmnium plating... I will take a picture tonight...
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/27/09 11:57 AM
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3 inches long...3/8 diameter..
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/27/09 12:28 PM
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If the plate is a goldish cad color or anything other than bare steel, it probably has another "kit" in it. Judging by your discription, it probably has a Cheettah power shifts "Shift kit". This kit includes a seperator plate, a blocker rod for the shuttle valve, and a plug to replace the spring on the 1-2 shift control valve(if equiped depending on year). The seperator plate will have no previsions for the accumulator feed hole(s) so the blocker rod in the accumulator may not be nessasary. Adding a TF-2 kit won't hurt anything. Matter of fact, it will enhance the valve body further by adding the "Shift command" feature and also supplies a different PR spring that the current kit may not have supplied. If possible, post pictures of the VB showing the seperator plate. Quote:
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THe shuttle valve somehow controls accumulator pressure on 2-1 downshifts, or something like that. Having it blocked will probably firm up the shifts and definetly won't cause any issues with the TF-2 kit. The Accumulator spring can be removed but should add a steel rod under the piston to eliminate any movment. This would further firm up shifts. Does it look like it has an aftermarket seperator plate ? Would most likly be gold anidize if it was. AG
Ok for the rod, any suggestion for approx diameter? It is gold but more like cadmnium plating... I will take a picture tonight...
1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy.
1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno.
1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/27/09 04:32 PM
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I have noticed a P/N stamped on the sparator plate: Pn/N: 1000041-06 Can you tell from this picture if there is feed holes to the accumulator?
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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it will enhance the valve body further by adding the "Shift command"
I was not planning to install the Shift command since I don't see the point of being able to downshift from 3rd to 1st at any speed... Unless I am missing something?
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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and a plug to replace the spring on the 1-2 shift control valve(if equiped depending on year).
I don't think I have the 1-2 plug since there is still a spring there...
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/28/09 11:00 PM
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I wonder who's plate that was.
35 years old car... We will never have the answer to that question!
I must say that I am a bit disapointed about the fact that the valve body has already been modified because it felt stock and the TF-2 will probably not make much of a change...
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Re: Need help with my 727 torqueflite & TF-2 Kit
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09/29/09 01:08 PM
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I am installing my TF-2 kit and have a few questions:
1- Someone have previously removed the accumulator spring... What is the purpose and will that be an Issue with the TF-2 Kit?
2- The shuttle valve primary spring was replaced by a solid pin. What is the purpose and is it OK with TF-2 Kit? If I need to put back a spring, can I use my old TV spring? (very stiff, similar to the one provided with the TF-2 kit)
3- I don't know the year of my TF, I assume 1976 approx... Is it normal that I have no line bypass ball & spring?
Thanks,
What i do when i got a tranny where is worked on before is bring it back to as stock as possible or take a other valvebody and then install the TF-2 kit, or any other kit.
I just try to start with a stock tranny and them follow the instructions in the improver kit
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