Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
[Re: SuperStocker]
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09/25/09 10:02 AM
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Yes... though I can attest to the fact that the new SM lifters are of way better quality than the older Schubecks.
Price increase or not, I'm glad to hear some people are trying to better their product, rather than outsourcing and jacking the racers.
Do you think Smith will fix this Schubeck? (It was NOT run in a bushed bore either.)
Any pictures of the current lifters?
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
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09/25/09 11:53 AM
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I know Schubeck wouldn't warranty their lifters run in bushed lifter bores...
Really? Mine have been run for thousands of miles in bushed lifter bores w/o any problems.
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
[Re: scatpacktom]
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09/25/09 01:40 PM
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Oh boy, that picture doesn't make me feel good.
It may not make you feel much better but, I didn't know it was like that until I tore the engine down. It couldn't come apart with the pushrod in it so, there wasn't any damage or trash in the engine.
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
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09/25/09 02:31 PM
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Here is a link concerning the new SM lifters. http://www.aspenrt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=396 The quality of the ones Ive gotten has been dead on and ive had them right to 7k and so far so good. And they are on there second cam as well. I got the kcid put to me by Joe as the few last sets I got from him were not even usable, the cups were machined different???? One lifter body was split from the box. JS...sucks.
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
[Re: BradH]
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09/25/09 08:48 PM
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The problem with the old Schubeks ( towards the end of their demise) wasnt lifter bushing use. Totally un related.
The new SM lifters are holding up great and MUCH better quality control and concern for a good product.
RIP Monte Smith
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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09/26/09 12:02 AM
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The new SM lifters are a great product. They are available in .842, .874, .903 and .921 diameter. They come hydraulic, solid, and lightweight solid. Prices are $685 per set for solids, $700 per set for lightweight solids, and $720.00 per set for hydraulics. I am a dealer of their product. I have some in stock. Email or call with your needs. Also, Bob is now making this same lifter with a tool steel puck instead of the ceramic material if desired. They cost $100.00 per set less than above posted prices. They also require no break in, no zinc, and can be used on many different cams. They have also come out with limited travel/high RPM hydraulic roller lifters, .937 Keyway lifters, and the improved roller X lifter. Bob will look at any existing Shubeck lifter. He can make new singles to match closely.
Jeff Day Precision Automotive Machine, INC Canton, Ohio (330)456-3045
PS. The lifter in the picture appears to have had the puck come out. This is probably what Bob would call an Indian lifter, those had epoxied pucks that just didn't work.
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
[Re: jdfpam]
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09/26/09 04:58 PM
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The new SM lifters are a great product. They are available in .842, .874, .903 and .921 diameter. They come hydraulic, solid, and lightweight solid. Prices are $685 per set for solids, $700 per set for lightweight solids, and $720.00 per set for hydraulics. I am a dealer of their product. I have some in stock. Email or call with your needs. Also, Bob is now making this same lifter with a tool steel puck instead of the ceramic material if desired. They cost $100.00 per set less than above posted prices. They also require no break in, no zinc, and can be used on many different cams. They have also come out with limited travel/high RPM hydraulic roller lifters, .937 Keyway lifters, and the improved roller X lifter. Bob will look at any existing Shubeck lifter. He can make new singles to match closely.
Jeff Day
there's no doubt that the "new" style are much improved over the old ones. out of respect for Jeff, i won't post our prices on those. actually, now that i think about it, i don't think we're supposed to post prices in the forums anyway.
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
[Re: jdfpam]
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09/29/09 11:06 PM
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So could anyone chime in on the pros and cons of the ceramic verses the tool steel lifters. I have an R block that will have a solid in it for my next build and want to start collecting parts. This is a bracket engine (low,low 10's) and what I'm looking for is reliability.
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Re: Schubeck/SM Lifters??
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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09/29/09 11:53 PM
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My Schubecks worked great. I never had to adjust the lash one time all season but, since they fell apart, it just failed one of their selling points...........re-using them almost indefinitely. I'd love to use another set but, can't justify the cost a second time. It's going to be plain old EDM solid or roller. On second thought, I might stick these back in anyway.
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