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AIR CLEANER race with or without #478952 09/25/09 02:33 AM 09/25/09 02:33 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa R roadrunnerreds OP mopar
roadrunnerreds OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa	do you race with an air cleaner on with a flat hood or do you have it sealed to hood scoop with a air cleaner and was there any tuning difference and et change? Brad

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: roadrunnerreds] #478953 09/25/09 02:35 AM 09/25/09 02:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	With a 14x2 AFE air cleaner, drop base and a flat hood. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: roadrunnerreds] #478954 09/25/09 04:14 AM 09/25/09 04:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa rebel master
rebel master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa	on my street driven 'cuda i gained .2 average when i fitted a 6 pak hood to the car. the fresh air made a difference for me. 5504560-scan0001.jpg (63 downloads)

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: roadrunnerreds] #478955 09/25/09 04:29 AM 09/25/09 04:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA 493_DART master
493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	dont know if this will help but... i have a scoop - not sealed to carb. My car ET's the same with or without an air cleaner . Also ET's the same with a $40 fancy filter or a $3 paper filter .

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: roadrunnerreds] #478956 09/25/09 11:58 AM 09/25/09 11:58 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA	The right air flter assembly will help the car go faster, even the air filter base without the rest of the filter can help in a car with no scoop or fresh air With a scoop on a Holley carb the filter can make a substantial gain in many cases, large diameter and a drop base to get the most hieght on the filter element helps, the K&N Extreme lids help also Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: Cab_Burge] #478957 09/25/09 12:02 PM 09/25/09 12:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,746 Riverside, California L Lil Demon master
Lil Demon master L Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,746 Riverside, California	Quote: The right air flter assembly will help the car go faster, even the air filter base without the rest of the filter can help in a car with no scoop or fresh air With a scoop on a Holley carb the filter can make a substantial gain in many cases, large diameter and a drop base to get the most hieght on the filter element helps, the K&N Extreme lids help also Hey Cab - on the Demon - I don't have enough clearance between my carbs and scoop for an air cleaner. However, there is an in-scoop filter that mounts in the front ofthe scoop - not over the carbs. Does that type show a performance improvement as well?

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: Lil Demon] #478958 09/25/09 12:45 PM 09/25/09 12:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Quote: The right air flter assembly will help the car go faster, even the air filter base without the rest of the filter can help in a car with no scoop or fresh air With a scoop on a Holley carb the filter can make a substantial gain in many cases, large diameter and a drop base to get the most hieght on the filter element helps, the K&N Extreme lids help also Hey Cab - on the Demon - I don't have enough clearance between my carbs and scoop for an air cleaner. However, there is an in-scoop filter that mounts in the front ofthe scoop - not over the carbs. Does that type show a performance improvement as well? I have no idea on that as I have not ran a car like yours or any other car with ascoop that needed a scoop type filter, sorry Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: Cab_Burge] #478959 09/25/09 12:52 PM 09/25/09 12:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I found that when I run the base plate only is gives me the best et's (in my old cars) haven't tryed it yet w/ the 6 pack. That said I have read that a system like the K&N w/ the draw thru lid is just as good or better. Plus you don't have to worry about dirt. And yes fresh air helps a lot to. Buddy went from 14.22 to 13.84 just by removing the stock air cleaner and sealing his carb to the hood scoop. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: Mr.Yuck] #478960 09/25/09 05:58 PM 09/25/09 05:58 PM
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racerx master Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,074 Mo.	Do anyone run a drop base filter with n.o.s cyeniods mounted nextto the carbs? Thax...If so what type. Last edited by racerx; 09/25/09 05:59 PM.

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: racerx] #478961 09/25/09 06:15 PM 09/25/09 06:15 PM
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mopar dave master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,043 Mt Morris Michigan	i found that with a 14x4 k&n filter i gained 2hp vs no air cleaner at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: Lil Demon] #478962 09/25/09 06:18 PM 09/25/09 06:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: Quote: The right air flter assembly will help the car go faster, even the air filter base without the rest of the filter can help in a car with no scoop or fresh air With a scoop on a Holley carb the filter can make a substantial gain in many cases, large diameter and a drop base to get the most hieght on the filter element helps, the K&N Extreme lids help also Hey Cab - on the Demon - I don't have enough clearance between my carbs and scoop for an air cleaner. However, there is an in-scoop filter that mounts in the front ofthe scoop - not over the carbs. Does that type show a performance improvement as well? where did you get that type from? I would like to have one.

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: Quicktree] #478963 09/25/09 06:52 PM 09/25/09 06:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa R roadrunnerreds OP mopar
roadrunnerreds OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa	i do not have a hood scoop but i finally got my 14x3 air cleaner to fit my 65 dart.just want to know if i should be prepaired to change the jets in the carb? i bought a jegs aluminum lid and base with a cleanable air element.i had one of those edelbrock heart shaped air cleaners on it and everyone said it will cut back on performance so i always ran it without an air cleaner on it at the track. Brad

Re: AIR CLEANER race with or without [Re: roadrunnerreds] #478964 09/25/09 10:47 PM 09/25/09 10:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA	Quote: i do not have a hood scoop but i finally got my 14x3 air cleaner to fit my 65 dart.just want to know if i should be prepaired to change the jets in the carb? i bought a jegs aluminum lid and base with a cleanable air element.i had one of those edelbrock heart shaped air cleaners on it and everyone said it will cut back on performance so i always ran it without an air cleaner on it at the track. Brad Run it the way it is first, look at the time slip and the spark plugs and tune from there Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

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