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70 440 HP block ??? #476083
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Were there any 440HP vehicles built at the Belivdere IL plant in 1970?

It appears they made C bodies there. Not sure what else. I am looking at an HP block and want to make sure it is legit. VIN # stamp on pan rail is OD22XXXX. Casting date of 10/69 and does have HP stamp on top pad.


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Re: 70 440 HP block ??? [Re: 70gtx440dana] #476084
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The Dodge & Plymouth c-bodies were built at Belvidere in '70. A 440HP in one would be "rare".
It would include "U" code cop cars and 440+6 Sport Fury GTs & possibly a few others.

What's the engine assembly date on the pad with the F 440 HP?

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F440 1 27 HP.....


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It appears all the 0D22xxxx cars were assembled in late-March a month+ after that engine was assembled.

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The VIN is 0D2200XX. Does this seem to be in line with your knowledge of the Belvidere produced cars to have the block a month + sooner than the SPD?


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Re: 70 440 HP block ??? [Re: 70gtx440dana] #476088
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Since the Belvidere plant would not have the need for a large number of orange engines, some may have sat around for a longer period of time before being used VS. the other plants that built a larger quantity of HP engined (4bbl or 6bbl) B & E-bodies.

At least it is before - not after. Is the "STAMPING" in question? Can you post pics?
Is it complete? Does it have c-body manifolds and "187" oil pan? ...... or do you think someone added the "HP" in a prior use in a B or E-body? Is there any evidence of original orange paint?

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I've seen many a TNT440 in New Yorkers and Chrysler 300s, not just cop cars.

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Here is a '70 U-code Ny'er




'70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 4.10 Dana N96 EB5
‘70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 3.54 Dana FC7
‘70 ‘Cuda 440+6bbl 4-spd 3.54 Dana N96 EB5 V1W

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but you missed the point ..... in '70 they didn't build Chryslers at Belvidere.
So, the engine isn't out of a 300, New Yorker or Newport. It is out of a Dodge Monaco/Polara or Plymouth Fury.

Please post a fender tag pic of a '70 Dodge or Plymouth c-body with a "U"-code (E86) 440HP 4bbl.

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they made many U code full size cars at belvedere.. like dan says cop cars.. PH29 formal roof fury,s, six BBL fury,s, HP monaco,s etc with out a car to match it to its just another F 440 HP block..wish i knew where it came from for ya dan

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but you missed the point ..... in '70 they didn't build Chryslers at Belvidere.
So, the engine isn't out of a 300, New Yorker or Newport. It is out of a Dodge Monaco/Polara or Plymouth Fury.

Please post a fender tag pic of a '70 Dodge or Plymouth c-body with a "U"-code (E86) 440HP 4bbl.





Oops, I guess I should have actually read the post before posting the pics:o



'70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 4.10 Dana N96 EB5
‘70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 3.54 Dana FC7
‘70 ‘Cuda 440+6bbl 4-spd 3.54 Dana N96 EB5 V1W

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Here is a photo of the vin stamp....top pad photo I have is not very clear...thinking about buying it for my 70 Charger project...bare block with caps.

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Re: 70 440 HP block ??? [Re: 70gtx440dana] #476095
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if the price is right buy it.. 70 F 440 blocks are good... cant read the vin off your pic could you post it for us so if the car ever does show up we know where to call... dan

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i have a F 440HP block with a "0CXXXX" vin. i was told its a c-body HP block, but what do i know; .

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never seen a c body with X,s in the vin... dan

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never seen a c body with X,s in the vin... dan




That's because you are not special enough to have ever seen one up close .







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