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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: gtx6970] #475966
10/12/09 07:18 PM
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WRONG
they don,t fit because those are brake HOSE clips
not brake CABLE clips


left is cabe clip
right is hose clip

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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... #475967
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WRONG
they don,t fit because those are brake HOSE clips
not brake CABLE clips


left is cabe clip
right is hose clip




That's what i was thinking.....

Now, I am not sure if Tomr's clip is different from the ones I have experience with, but they kinda look the same as the ones pictured on the left. Do you notice the circular outline on the inside of the clip? Well that part winds up coming away from the clip and they now become pretty much useless as they don't securely hold the cable to the frame bracket. And they are rather flimsy and lack the rigidity and tension of the originals. Hopefully I have explained it so all can understand. If someone wants to add anything to clarify, feel free to do so. Again, bear in mind that while they kinda look the same, Tom may have a superior item than what I have had sent with the cables I have used.



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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... #475968
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I've used the clips that were supplied with the cables by Inline Tube only to find them lying on the floor with the centers broken out.
I'm not using brake hose clips.

Trust me, I've assembly a few E bodys this year alone....


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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: anlauto] #475969
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Here is an original firewall grommet. It was an SOB to get off.

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475970
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475971
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475972
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I wish my origonal looked that good. I'll definatly be needing a new one.

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: burdar] #475973
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Inline Tube is aware that the ball ends on our parking brake cables are larger than the factory ball. This was done for saftey reasons after having several small ball failures on original cables because of the small surface area. Also all of Inline Tube's hardware is designed to work with the larger ball which is only 1/16 larger in diameter then the original. This small ball end is only on 1 of the 3 to 4 cables and does not affect any function and is not even visable because once it is installed in the hardware you can not see the end of the cable.




Do the Fine Lines cables use the original ball size?

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475974
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475975
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Also all of Inline Tube's hardware is designed to work with the larger ball which is only 1/16 larger in diameter then the original.




Maybe it's just me, but the difference in diameter looks like a lot more than 1/16"
Inline Tube Ball = 0.443"
Original Ball = 0.312"

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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475976
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Another difference is the shape of the groove in the end fittings. I would think this would require a different shaped retainer clip.

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475977
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Interesting side note.

1970 Cuda Dana drivers side cable end colors.

Light green seal and red locking collar.

Outer Cover = 24 3/8""
Inner Cable = 34 1/2"



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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475978
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1970 Cuda Dana passenger side cable end colors.

White seal and yellow locking collar.

Outer Cover = 65 1/2"
Inner Cable = 74 1/2"

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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475979
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For those of you with 70 E-Bodies.
All inner cable measurements are the OAL's end to end. Adjust for end fittings.

Original cables:
Front - Cuda - add 2" for Challenger
Outer - 38 1/4"
Inner - 49 1/2"

Drivers Side
Outer - 24 3/8"
Inner - 34 1/2"

Passenger Side
Outer - 65 1/2"
Inner - 74 1/2"

Inline Tube cables:
Front - P/N FT-551 - Cuda - add 2" for Challenger
Outer - 38 1/2"
Inner - 50"

Drivers Side - P/N RE-552
Outer - 24 1/4"
Inner - 25"

Passenger Side - P/N RE-553
Outer - 64 1/2"
Inner - 75"

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475980
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What are these clips?

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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475981
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What are these clips?




M/T clutch linkage clips.

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: HPMike] #475982
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Thanks
That's what I thought, but they were in a bag of brake parts.

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: Snoopy] #475983
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Does a similar clip(retainer) hold the front parking brake cable to the frame rail? What is the best way to remove without damaging it? Thanks.
Ray

Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: rayztoy] #475984
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That clip looks nothing like the one shown(for the brake backing plate). It's a small circular spring steel clip with small barbs that hold it to the rail. I never had any trouble just pulling them out with a rocking motion. No damage.

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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables..... [Re: HPMike] #475985
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As always, thank you!

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