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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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Nother question, someone said i can longate one of the holes on the magnum flexplate & just use it, but will i need to change the converter to one with weights for the magnum, because i'm sure the 71 318 doesn't have weights on the converter.
if you use the later flexplate (not sure if it's 96-up or more like 98 or 99), it has the weight on the flexplate so you use a neutral balance converter. B&M also makes a magnum weighted flexplate for a 727.
since the engine's out of the car, why not get the roller cam reground to something more sporting? it'll be less than $200, and another $100 or so for hughes 1110 valve springs, which can be used with junkyard 2.2L retainers
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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Nother question, someone said i can longate one of the holes on the magnum flexplate & just use it, but will i need to change the converter to one with weights for the magnum, because i'm sure the 71 318 doesn't have weights on the converter.
if you use the later flexplate (not sure if it's 96-up or more like 98 or 99), it has the weight on the flexplate so you use a neutral balance converter. B&M also makes a magnum weighted flexplate for a 727.
since the engine's out of the car, why not get the roller cam reground to something more sporting? it'll be less than $200, and another $100 or so for hughes 1110 valve springs, which can be used with junkyard 2.2L retainers
Its a 95, i'll see if theres weights on it. I've thought about doing something with the cam, but money is tight right now, i called hughes to get a cam recammendation, they wanted to put me in something with 560 lift., how much lift can you get regrinding one of these stock rollers?
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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09/21/09 07:27 AM
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Nother question, someone said i can longate one of the holes on the magnum flexplate & just use it, but will i need to change the converter to one with weights for the magnum, because i'm sure the 71 318 doesn't have weights on the converter.
if you use the later flexplate (not sure if it's 96-up or more like 98 or 99), it has the weight on the flexplate so you use a neutral balance converter. B&M also makes a magnum weighted flexplate for a 727.
since the engine's out of the car, why not get the roller cam reground to something more sporting? it'll be less than $200, and another $100 or so for hughes 1110 valve springs, which can be used with junkyard 2.2L retainers
Its a 95, i'll see if theres weights on it. I've thought about doing something with the cam, but money is tight right now, i called hughes to get a cam recammendation, they wanted to put me in something with 560 lift., how much lift can you get regrinding one of these stock rollers?
I had my roller cam reground by bullet with their 259/316 lobes for intake and exhaust. works out to .506" lift with mag rockers. I's stick to under .340" lobe lift if you don't want to spend a ton on springs and head machining. for a sporty mag 360, I'd probably go around their HR270/330 lobes for both intake and exhaust
http://bulletcams.com/Masters/HRlobes.htm
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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09/22/09 12:54 AM
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Your biggest roadblock will be the tiny cam the Magnums use.
I have one in a truck and it is a nice combo for a truck. Especially when towing. In a car you'll want to cam it up and trade some of that below 2000rpm action for some 4500 rpm and higher play.
They are also a nice quality engine. I'm not even going to tell you how many miles are on my engine because nobody will believe it. I actually don't either but in 5000km I consume less than a quart of oil and it runs like perfect.
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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Your biggest roadblock will be the tiny cam the Magnums use.
I have one in a truck and it is a nice combo for a truck. Especially when towing. In a car you'll want to cam it up and trade some of that below 2000rpm action for some 4500 rpm and higher play.
They are also a nice quality engine. I'm not even going to tell you how many miles are on my engine because nobody will believe it. I actually don't either but in 5000km I consume less than a quart of oil and it runs like perfect.
I would get a cam, but hughes wants to put me in something with .560 lift, seems a bit steep for such a mild combo i want, i'm sure with 3.55 gears, it'll run fine with the stock cam for awhile, right now i have 2.76s, that should work really good, i'm bringing the heads in tomorrow & have them checked, hopefully there not cracked  .
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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Had the heads looked at today, he knew exactly where to look, before he even mag'd them, he said "this ones crack", sure enough, cracked big time in-between the intake/exhaust, the other was cracked to, he said they crack at the end chamber between the valves, so now i'm kind-of screwed, i left them there, guess my only option are the Hughes "iron rams", but there out of them, but they have the RHSs for 875.00, i can also get a re-ground cam for 199.00 with my core, its .503 lift, what do you guys think, should i just get the RHSs & a re-ground cam?
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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09/22/09 09:41 PM
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Don't try to use the stock springs for any more than stock lift. They are barely adequate for a stock motor when you add a carb and headers. If you want a number I would say .450 , you might be able to sneek out a few more thousands with a flat tappet because it is lighter but then you have to worry about coil bind.
I have a pair of bare aluminum magnums I might sell, PM me if you want some more info.
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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09/23/09 04:01 PM
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Just ordered a set of RHS Magnums from hughes for 875.00, others wanted 6-700.00 for stock reman heads.
Patrick, i called Bullet cams, its 125.00 to re-grind mine, but i can only get around .430-.440 lift, for 199.00, hughes will take mine as a core & put me into a .500 lift. They will give me more lift, but i would have to change the springs.
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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09/24/09 09:22 AM
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Just ordered a set of RHS Magnums from hughes for 875.00, others wanted 6-700.00 for stock reman heads.
Patrick, i called Bullet cams, its 125.00 to re-grind mine, but i can only get around .430-.440 lift, for 199.00, hughes will take mine as a core & put me into a .500 lift. They will give me more lift, but i would have to change the springs.
the hughes heads come with their 1110 spring package, which should be fine for any of their cams into the .54" lift range.
who did you talk to at Bullet? I worked with Tim. the first guy I talked to said he didn't think they could put much lobe on mine, Tim said that the OEM Chrysler roller cam cores are hardened much deeper than the GM and ford ones
(in the range of .4" deep), so they can get pretty aggressive on a regrind. he had no problem putting the HR259/316 lobe on mine, and it sounded like I could have gone bigger if I had wanted to. I'd call bullet back and ask for Tim and see what he has to say.
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Re: Any 360 Magnum users out there?
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09/24/09 10:46 AM
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I used a friends spring pressure tool, but with 15K miles on Sealed Power stock replacement springs I measured 80 on the seat and 270 open. With .060 shim...85 and 280. Still over .060 cbc.This is measuring at stock installed height, btw.
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