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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: SRT6776]
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09/16/09 10:56 PM
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If you run 11's and he was just stock with exhaust, you would have smoked him..BUT..there are many fast DSM's and EVO's out there..
7.70's in the 1/4
9's on race gas and low 10's on pump gas
I always wanted to build on of those Eagle Talon AWD cars.
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: 11secaarcuda]
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09/17/09 02:09 AM
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Well id be finding a track as it looks like you got punked by a tuner car and his owner until until somthing different comes up to show it. Not saying he would win but the reality is some run good, good enough to win. he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO...right there shows the bubble you live in, as mentioned the old iron runs good and strong, however check out a tuner race and see how many of those cars turning the good numbers are driven to the track.... A simple common low mod Evo....mid 11-s. http://www.dragtimes.com/Mitsubishi-Lancer-EVO-Timeslip-8454.html This would be a good match for ya...fart can EVO vs EGO? http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Mitsubishi-Lancer-EVO-Videos-8454.html 8.50-s EVO....four doors....when the last time I seen an AAR in the 8.50 area..oh I havent, oops. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XsksPLtVh4 Quote:
So , my wifes uncle was in town and he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO. He asks if I want to get my AAR out and "race a real car". I just laughed at him. I was a good boy and didn't run him (even though there is a very nice long straight stretch in front of my house). It just cracks me up that he thinks his EVO could "blow my doors off". 
I wanted to ask him when he was going to grow a set and buy a real car, but I refrained.
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: GTX MATT]
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09/17/09 04:24 AM
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Ever hear of Pure Stock Drags? Mr Six Pack has an A12 car running 12.30s and a Hemi 'Cuda running 11.80s.
Stock running those numbers??...i doubt it..
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: 11secaarcuda]
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09/17/09 07:31 AM
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Defbob
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his is stock with a big muffler, so I wasn't worried about it. He must have used the term to me about riding in or racing his "real car" 3 or 4 times in the 1 day that I saw him.
I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at. 
I don't know, a 4dr dart with a hemi would be nothing to laugh at
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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09/17/09 10:22 AM
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Garceau
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Whats scarey about some of the small motors import/or domestic. Is the amount of HP they can gain and you wouldnt know it. He says its stock, but who knows. Besides a fart can would anyone be able to look under the hood and see a big difference from stock appearing? these guys can get a bigger HP gain with a few strokes on a lap top than we can with all the wrenches in the world. I guess Im not close minded. If a car is fast I will give them props regardless of the brand, the make the number of cylinders or what ever they needed. I may not personally like it, but Im too much of an adult to act like a kid and call it names just because its different than what I drive. I guess I was raised differently. Maybe Im not "TRUE MOPAR" your right then. I drive what I want, when I want. Mopar doesnt pay me anything to speak for them. Their products can speak for themselves in most cases. I have owned and raced many other brands. I come back to mopar because thats what I enjoyed in my younger years. Im sorry a little ricer burner with about 3k worth of add-ons can eat up a Hemi Cuda all day long. But I didnt make the rules.  - there that will get ya all going again. 
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: GTX MATT]
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09/17/09 10:31 AM
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Ever hear of Pure Stock Drags? Mr Six Pack has an A12 car running 12.30s and a Hemi 'Cuda running 11.80s. Lets see one of your cars do that and spec out to stock blueprint specs. Pure stock cars dont have ported heads with a bunch of epoxy in them to completely change the port shape either.
As dumb as this may sound, There is not much stock about a pure stock car.
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: fun4door]
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09/17/09 11:29 AM
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The cars are quick, theres no doubt about it. You can call me closed minded all you want but I have a buddy with a 300ZX Twin Turbo, and another with a Mitsubishi Mirage with a 4G63 out of an Eclipse GST running upwards of 20 pounds of boost. I drove it, it was fast (had nothing under 4000 rpm though), but im not into it. There is still no replacement for displacement. At the end of the day if you want to match the boost of any smaller engine running boost, you will make more power.
As far as the EVOs and STis go, they are very over rated due to the 0-60 times and ETs that they run because of their AWD. If you race one from a stop then that matters, but in my area most racing is done from a roll. My friends ZX TT has absolutely waxed every STi thats ever challenged it from a roll and its pretty stock. He only raced one EVO and by 90 he had put enough distance between them that the EVO gave up.
Also, have you ever calculated the first gear ratio in one of those things? They arent surprisingly quick because they are so much lighter than our cars (theyre not) or because there is some black magic to the engines. They are geared extremely quick. First overall is over 13:1 and even second is like 9:1. With that kind of gearing it better move.
I know my competition, and I know how much money these guys dump in their cars. One guy I know of is 60000 into his car to put down almost 500 at the wheels. Even a used high mileage EVO costs 15 K + and thats a good deal. At the point at which I'm 15000 into my car it will be in the 11s with a FRESH engine, not a 100000 mile engine that some kid has beaten the crap out of before me which has had two atomospheres of pressure inside the combustion chamber everytime the pedal was mashed.
Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: Dartcuda]
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09/17/09 05:07 PM
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Garceau
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I've had enough , some of you guys need to spend more time on ricerracer.com.
Oh so nice of you to determine other peoples likes and interest and where they spend their time. Im sure the moderators would just love to lose hits and discussions to another board.
Thank you very much for looking out for my best interest because YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: cudadoug]
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09/17/09 06:00 PM
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i was at our local track last year with my ten second street car, in the burnout box waiting for the signal to do my burnout. staged in front of me was an eagle talon awd visiting from another area. slicks on all four corners. i thought nothing of it. i will never forget what that thing did on launch- it's prolly a seven second quarter mile car ( ours is an eighth mile track). i looked up, and IT WAS GONE! and it used every inch of the track. i will race anyone, any time (at the track), but that guy would have killed me. so i end up drawing him in the first round of eliminations. i leave first (obviously) and wait for him to catch me. he broke on the starting line (transmission). i went a few rounds that day and drove home. no biggie. but i will never forget what that car looked like from behind going down the track. i think it ran a mid five? at a high altitude track?
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: maximum entropy]
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09/17/09 06:28 PM
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i leave first (obviously) and wait for him to catch me. he broke on the starting line (transmission).
Unfortunately, more often than not, that is what happens.
Just come on down to Etown on a typical Wed. night. Just bring your hardhat so you don't wind up in the hospital from all of the junk flying off these things. 
MB
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: HPMike]
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09/17/09 06:46 PM
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When talking stock restored muscle cars running 15's it makes you realize how important the tune is on the old muscle cars with points and timing adjustments. And all the carb settings. My point is you can take 2 of the same muscle cars and run 14.95 in one and 13.50 in the other because the points are worn and the timing way retarded. But the modern cars are basically all electronicly tuned. As 2 of them might run 13.60 and 13.50 with the driver being the difference. So it is real important to have the tune right on our old muscle to get the most out of it. As for the race its a crapshoot depending on what is done to each car. And the turbo ricer will respond alot to simple mods changing the boost. I really dont like the ricer Jap cars myself but I do respect that they can run good. Now if you take away the power adder you will definetly kill him !  Ron
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Re: Mitsubishi EVO against my AAR
[Re: 383man]
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09/17/09 07:01 PM
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When talking stock restored muscle cars running 15's it makes you realize how important the tune is on the old muscle cars with points and timing adjustments. And all the carb settings. My point is you can take 2 of the same muscle cars and run 14.95 in one and 13.50 in the other because the points are worn and the timing way retarded. But the modern cars are basically all electronicly tuned. As 2 of them might run 13.60 and 13.50 with the driver being the difference. So it is real important to have the tune right on our old muscle to get the most out of it.
As for the race its a crapshoot depending on what is done to each car. And the turbo ricer will respond alot to simple mods changing the boost. I really dont like the ricer Jap cars myself but I do respect that they can run good. Now if you take away the power adder you will definetly kill him ! Ron
Ron;
That is a great point, and I agree. It won't take too much effort to turn a zero into a hero if the tuneup is off on an older car.
MB
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I have to agree(scary isn't it) 
