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16 plug hemi heads...give me some info #467655
09/14/09 03:04 AM
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I am trying to get a pair of 16 plug hemi heads but need to know more info before i go ahead and buy them.

1.What all do you need to run a 16 plug hemi? (Heads, valve covers, distributor, dual coils, dual ignition boxes, etc.)

2.Are any of these items available to purchase through vendors?

3.Are certain 16 plug heads worth more than others?


In addition anything you have on the history of the 16 plug hemis would be great!

Thanks,
Steve

Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: HemiChallenger] #467656
09/14/09 12:14 PM
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Not to high jack your post or anything. Interesting questions as I just picked up an old set of alum Top Fuel Stage V heads 16 plugs heads myself for my next build & was wondering all of the same questions.


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1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
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Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: HemiChallenger] #467657
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I cant answer most of your questions, but I do know this, it's not required to ignite gasoline and is only for show....do you have that much cash to spend on show? The parts to make this work are not cheap.


Take care,
Rick
68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: HemiChallenger] #467658
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Quote:

I am trying to get a pair of 16 plug hemi heads but need to know more info before i go ahead and buy them.

1.What all do you need to run a 16 plug hemi? (Heads, valve covers, distributor, dual coils, dual ignition boxes, etc.)

Talk to or PM Hemifred. He would know about this stuff and he may even have most of it. There are all different options for the heads, but this of course is not the cheapest venture. Despite making some people on here start screaming, you may want to go with an Indy Legend head kit as they can mill them for the second plugs. It may be easier to put together that way. Another option is the aluminum Direct Connection D-5 heads. They've been out of production for years and are both scarce and expensive to get, not counting the D-5 rocker setup. Like I said, contact Hemifred about it since he probably has the stuff. As for tech info, contact Bob George. He can tell you anything you want....

2.Are any of these items available to purchase through vendors?

3.Are certain 16 plug heads worth more than others?


In addition anything you have on the history of the 16 plug hemis would be great!

Thanks,
Steve





Maund Motorworks--supplier of high performance Mopar engines--specializing in B, RB, and Hemi. www.maundmotorworks.com
Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: maundmotorworks] #467659
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The D5 head approach is a black hole you don't want to get near. It will suck all your cash out of your wallet and you still won't have all the parts needed - special block, heads, intake, headers, rocker arms and stands, etc. Hemi Fred had a pile of this stuff and even he didn't have enough to put one together. I wanted one head for a souvenir, but he wanted to sell all of it.

Maybe you meant the D6 heads, which were aluminum, dual plug versions of the D4. The twin distributor drives are hard to get the old ones, but you might be able to adapt one from the alcohol or nitro racers (they use mags). Valve covers, MP used to sell a cast version, but one was for a BAE Fat Head and something was different where it wouldn't fit a standard Hemi head.

A coil-on-plug setup would be the cool way to go. I'd suggest sticking with the single plugs though. There are plenty of places to spend money on a Hemi. The SS/AH guys are pushing 1000 HP on single plugs.


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Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: mr_340] #467660
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here is our 426 with 2 1050,s and a 6 barrel lid still got to do some trimming on the baseplate


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1971 charger
2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red
2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: toplescuda] #467661
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i got the dual drive from a site called
insidetopalcohol.com its pretty hard core site and good

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1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink)
1971 charger
2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red
2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: HemiChallenger] #467662
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I'm running MP's dual plug cast iron heads on my 528 hemi. The dual plug equipment was too much money for me, so I'm running them in a single plug configuration (regular valve covers with 2nd spark plug opening plugged off).

Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: toplescuda] #467663
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inside the cans(mags) is gutted it just has a rotor to point the fire and using a msd7 box for the spark and a crank trigger i think i paid $200 for the dual drive off the site i mentioned before and think the valve cover were $150 same place whos to say you have to actually have a spark on the 2nd plug got to admit it looks like it will run 300 mph lol


1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59
1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink)
1971 charger
2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red
2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: toplescuda] #467664
09/14/09 11:51 PM
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I have a set that I never used because the raised exhaust port would require a different set of headers

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Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: HemiChallenger] #467665
09/15/09 02:38 AM
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The 74 Super Stock heads were aluminum, had a Chrysler part number, and they were/are great street heads in the untouched form, and could be made to perform very well when ported.

You'd need dual plug valve covers, two sets of wires, two sets of plugs, and a dual plug distributor.

The nice thing is that for the most part, if you don't like the dual plug setup, you can get plug blockoff's- the kind made for 80's dualplug superbikes work great- and turn your dual plug into single plugs with a change in valve covers, distributor, and wires(ie you eliminate one set).

Dual plugs look cool, but there's not much reason for them beyond that unless you're at the top end of alcohol or supergas performance.

Re: 16 plug hemi heads...give me some info [Re: Chargerbee] #467666
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my heads and block were all cast in may of 74 and the heads are untouched (ported)but was stamped by dick landy


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1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink)
1971 charger
2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red
2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi






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