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Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? #466927
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Im interested in installing larger studs in my small bolt pattern axles. Im currently running convo pros for rims. Can SBP axle be safely drilled for larger studs, if yes what size will work with my convo pros?
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Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: moparguy1967] #466928
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i have done it use 1/2 screw in studs,have machine shop drill the axles & drums at the same time to 4 1/2 bolt circle

Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: moparguy1967] #466929
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The question what size nut will the wheels accept ?

Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: dart443] #466930
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4 bolt circle

Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: JohnRR] #466931
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That's my question as well- will the larger 1/2" nut fit the wheels designed for the 7/16" nuts?

Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: moparguy1967] #466932
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1/2" screw in studs will fit I ran them in my dart for years just drill the drums for the fatter stud the alxles are big enough allready

Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: W2DODGE] #466933
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Still waiting for an aswer about the RIMS ...


Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: JohnRR] #466934
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Just change to 1/2" thread lug nuts.

Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: JohnRR] #466935
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The lug nuts Im running now are shanked. I do not know what size the stock wheel studs are. I think they are 7/16", but i may be wrong.

Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: moparguy1967] #466936
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Yes they are 7/16ths. You should just be able to change lug nuts and be ok if your running aftermarket wheels. With OEM steel I don't know if that would work.


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Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: Bad340fish] #466937
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What rear end are you running?? If its an 8 3/4 it may a better move in the long run, to get aftermarket axles for about $350 than to spend $100+ getting stock axles modified, particularly if your putting any power to the ground. (change to "green bearings" while your at it) Aftermarket axles can be ordered with dual bolt patterns so if you want to upgrade to the larger bolt pattern later, you can just move the studs to a different set of holes.

There should be no problem with the 1/2" studs and shank style lugs. I don't know about stock style steel wheels, but it should be possible with proper conical style lug nuts.

If you have a 8-1/4 or 7-1/4 rear end, upgrading to 1/2 studs may not be very helpful, as the studs are not likely the weak point in the setup.


Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: moparguy1967] #466938
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I had to go with 1/2" on the rear in the duster since someone screwed up 1 axle trying to put RH thread studs in it. I just went to napa with a stock 7/16 stud and found a 1/2" stud with a slightly larger knurled area and drilled out the axles with a hand drill. The OE 1/2 mopar lugs had a much larger knurled area and would be real close to the outside of the flange.

Mic the shank on the 7/16 lugs and order 1/2 lugs with the same shank size, The studs I used were for a ford truck, about 2 3/4" long. I may be able to get some measurements in a few days cause there's a 50/50 chance that I'm getting it back.

If your axles are ok there may be a long 7/16 for GM apps since they're all 7/16, it would save a bunch of work- EDIT moroso sells long 7/16 studs, about $11 for a pack of 5 but you need to find out the knurl size on the stock lugs first- they have .480" and .560".

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Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: ProStDodge] #466939
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What rear end are you running?? If its an 8 3/4 it may a better move in the long run, to get aftermarket axles for about $350 than to spend $100+ getting stock axles modified, particularly if your putting any power to the ground. (change to "green bearings" while your at it) Aftermarket axles can be ordered with dual bolt patterns so if you want to upgrade to the larger bolt pattern later, you can just move the studs to a different set of holes.

There should be no problem with the 1/2" studs and shank style lugs. I don't know about stock style steel wheels, but it should be possible with proper conical style lug nuts.

If you have a 8-1/4 or 7-1/4 rear end, upgrading to 1/2 studs may not be very helpful, as the studs are not likely the weak point in the setup.






HE has a good point, I have Moser 35 splines with the duel small/big pattern.

Only downside I see is I have the small pattern offset and going disc brakes in the future could be tricky.


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Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: MoparJoe] #466940
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I had to go with 1/2" on the rear in the duster since someone screwed up 1 axle trying to put RH thread studs in it. I just went to napa with a stock 7/16 stud and found a 1/2" stud with a slightly larger knurled area and drilled out the axles with a hand drill. The OE 1/2 mopar lugs had a much larger knurled area and would be real close to the outside of the flange.

Mic the shank on the 7/16 lugs and order 1/2 lugs with the same shank size, The studs I used were for a ford truck, about 2 3/4" long. I may be able to get some measurements in a few days cause there's a 50/50 chance that I'm getting it back.

If your axles are ok there may be a long 7/16 for GM apps since they're all 7/16, it would save a bunch of work- EDIT moroso sells long 7/16 studs, about $11 for a pack of 5 but you need to find out the knurl size on the stock lugs first- they have .480" and .560".




Just let me know what you find.
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Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: moparguy1967] #466941
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Im running a 8-3/4 rear. Im just thinking , Why cant I knock out my stock 7/16 studs. Then get 1/2 studs with the same size or slightly larger knural. Redrill the drills the drums for the larger stud.
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Re: Larger studs in small bolt patter axles???? [Re: moparguy1967] #466942
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I have Moser axles on the back of my duster with 1/2" studs,i just drilled the brake drums and rallye wheels to fit the bigger studs...

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what size is the knurl on a stock SBP 7/16" wheel stud?







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