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Re: Road racing my superbird clone [Re: wingedone] #466212
09/17/09 12:38 AM
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Thats the right bird. Ain't the internet wonderful. As the day went on I got more comfortable coming into the corners faster.

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Re: Road racing my superbird clone [Re: daytonakid] #466213
09/17/09 09:11 AM
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I am very envious of how much fun that must have been.

Re: Road racing my superbird clone VIDEO ADDED [Re: daytonakid] #466214
09/20/09 10:29 PM
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Took the Bird to PIR today what a trip.



Nice to see another mopar on the road course.
You looked like you were doing a great job out there.I'm sure that car is somewhat of a handfull.I agree with everyones suggestions on improving the car.It wouldnt take much to get that thing to handle a lot better.I finally got mine out on the roadcourse the other day,it was a good day nothing broke.I surprised a few people too.


Re: Road racing my superbird clone VIDEO ADDED [Re: gmachinedart1] #466215
09/20/09 10:55 PM
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Nice Dart. Lets see some pics of the rear wing. Bill

Re: Road racing my superbird clone VIDEO ADDED [Re: daytonakid] #466216
09/21/09 01:03 AM
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Come on down to Spring Fling Speed Festival next April. There's some cars that come (and have come) down from Oregon and Washington. Including the red 68 Valiant pictured above.

Sean and Joe Machado run their wing cars (clones). Sean's is pretty setup, gutted interior, a stout 440, and just last time out changed over to running the 15" rim Brake Man disk setup: http://alltimeracing.com/v2/content/view/4998/30/







Sean's tow rig (and his dad's car to take on the track)

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Re: Road racing my superbird clone [Re: AndyF] #466217
09/21/09 01:11 AM
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If you put 17 inch wheels on there then you can run Viper brakes. Here is a local '68 Valiant running at PIR with a Viper conversion kit on it.




If you are going to get bigger rims/tires I'd go 17" for better choices and possibility to grow into bigger rotors (13") and calipers (big Brembos or 6 pot Willwoods)

Re: Road racing my superbird clone [Re: autoxcuda] #466218
09/21/09 01:23 AM
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I ran a few laps at Buttonwillow this year. Brought back memories when I autocrossed and did hillclimb in my Chevy Monza. Did Portland a few times on open track day. Pretty hairy track when it rains.

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Re: Road racing my superbird clone [Re: dart4forte] #466219
09/21/09 06:12 AM
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30 miles west of EuroDisney
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Don't hesitate to go heavy on the torsion bars.
I'm using coilovers (with an AlterKtion setup), I had 550 lbs springs last year, which I swapped for 450's this year (more comfort for road use), and the trade-off in body roll is obvious.
I miss the 550s on the track. I don't know how that translate in torsion bars, but with a car this heavy, I'd say aim for the biggest you can find. But consider frame connectors with heavy suspension up front.

2 degrees of camber is OK (I'm running 1'50").
More gives more confidence going into corners, but the rear will slide easier, especially with a stiff bar (or a 4-link, in my case).

I suppose you have a Tremec 5-speed with the .64 5th ratio. I bought the same and thought I'd never need the 5th on a track (and I have a 3.55 rear end).
Bad thought, I should have bought the .8 final ratio version. At the top of 4th, at aroung 155 mph, a shorter 5th gear would be useful for long straights.

As Tom Quad said above, Wilwood has some great compounds, I'm using their 6-piston calipers and never had fade on a track yeat (my oil gets too hot before that, the oil cooler is on the shelf for this winter).

Re: Road racing my superbird clone VIDEO ADDED [Re: daytonakid] #466220
09/21/09 08:05 PM
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Nice Dart. Lets see some pics of the rear wing. Bill



Thanx Bill,heres one.

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Re: Road racing my superbird clone VIDEO ADDED [Re: gmachinedart1] #466221
09/22/09 07:56 AM
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Answering the call of the wild
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Love your ride Justin!!!

I have a need for some real speed!!!!

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