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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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looks like 63 split window coupe vette, what the heck are you doing? 
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Carbs are way to close to the top of the hood..you have to have atleast 1 inch over the vent tubes..2 inch is more like it..put you a nice looking aero scoop on it...I bet it would pick up 2 tenths..
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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take a piece of string and tape one end to the front of the hood, other end to the roof. opening needs to be above that line. thats what i read in a BOOK (i'm really just like quicktree  )
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Show me a pic of the hood an scoop it needs.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Is it a lift off hood? A buddy picked up a bunch just taking the hood off the car. Something easy to try if they will let you make a pass without one.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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 i will be running a hogan intake like yours with this hood, just a little taller. 8.47
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Show me a pic of the hood an scoop it needs.
Have you ever seen the clear plexiglass scoops? I think RT540 had one and I saw cars in Orland with them. They don't detract from the car or hood since they are clear. They have a good size opening too.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Is it a lift off hood? A buddy picked up a bunch just taking the hood off the car. Something easy to try if they will let you make a pass without one.
Took the hood off an it slowed down a bunch!
OK, scratch that, glad you tried it already.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Yes carbs are too close. What are the options for a hood? Nothing against the guys that have the hemi type scoops but is there something different?
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Did you have air cleaners on it?You have to have a flat hood with the carbs popping up thru and put the air cleaners on it..you will have to much turbulance without the air cleaners..
Think about it..you have a big motor with big carbs and a big intake..needs alot of air to get it moving..
It probably goes 600 feet and quits pulling..been there done that...cowl hood take alot of R/D to get to work...
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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I feel your pain when it comes to hoods/scoops, etc To stay under my hood, I can't run a spacer and I use a dropped base air cleaner so it don't suck a rock in and all that means is can't get it to work right and throttle will not go to WOT and yes we tried some things and not done yet but it slows the car down If you want it to look like a certain era and use certain parts, it limits you . I highly doubt that if the old guys could of went super fast without altering wheelbase and 100 other things they did they would of , we look back and now it looks cool but, then I'm sure there were people that didn't like to do it I do agree on the bigger, pro style scoop for getting those carbs in clean air but, that should not cause it to backfire not start ,etc 
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Cars with the hoods off generally will slow down. Thats bucking alot of wind into that firewall etc.
hhmmm, i never run a hood
Should try one, think about the wind just hitting that firewall. Your like going through the air with a 2x6 piece of plywood on the front end. I realize an open grill lets some air in there anyways, but this also creates alot of turbulence. I took my steel hood off my dart, figured being lighter would pick me up some. It fell off a bunch. Put hood back on, same day, picked right back up.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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as i said in your other post, i know a little about t/r's.when you get a scoop, make sure the opening is large enough. and make sure you position it correctly. the more clearance you have on top of the carbs, the better you are. lastly, seal the carbs., at least put a pan on the carbs to reduce turbulence.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Fuel injection with twin 4-brrel throttle bodies....all problems solved!.....and use same hood.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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What scoop is this?
Kinda looks like what Eddie did Shawn, aero scoop grafted to a cowl 
Yep, that's what it is. The manifold and carb was too high for the cowl so they added the scoop on top.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Show me a pic of the hood an scoop it needs.
Have you ever seen the clear plexiglass scoops? I think RT540 had one and I saw cars in Orland with them. They don't detract from the car or hood since they are clear. They have a good size opening too.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Cars with the hoods off generally will slow down. Thats bucking alot of wind into that firewall etc.
hhmmm, i never run a hood
I feel your pain, my scoop looks like I'm trying to catch something other than air. My Older hood scoop didn't have enough clearance, you could actually see the scoop getting sucked in, like the carb wanted to eat it. 
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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On tunnel ram and dominator equipped cars I would go with a aero style scoop. I had one on my S/G car and it worked well..There is a reason all the pro stock are running them, they are worth a bunch over the older style snorkle scoops. 
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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maybe this?
just make sure it is high enough
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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EVEN the taller max wedge scoop would be period correct for your car and be the best functioning.
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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I can't even imagine how tall a "period correct" scoop would have to be to fit Shawns car, I think a MW scoop that tall would be one ugly beast. Gonna have to be an aero scoop to fit that setup. That's what I like about Shawn "dare to be different" and use what works best (heaven forbid) instead of what the "Mopar Gods" deemed correct. Go for it, I wanna see a bumper draggin 8 second time slip  The scoop works for AJ and I'm pretty sure his car's all Mopar (if it matters  )
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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EVEN the taller max wedge scoop would be period correct for your car and be the best functioning.
I personaly not interested in a period correct hood. It looks great on ur hot rod but not for me.
then why do you still push transmission buttons,on your dash, do you still have your bench seat or did you take it out?
goodluck with your venture. 
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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I like my push buttons an my bench seat cause its different. I dont wanna be like everyone else. Sometimes it bits me in the butt, but im different an my car reflects it. An ya my hood will be different too 
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Re: Holes in cowl hood
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Carbs are way to close to the top of the hood..you have to have atleast 1 inch over the vent tubes..2 inch is more like it..put you a nice looking aero scoop on it...I bet it would pick up 2 tenths..
I would have said the same thing an hour ago but then I saw the pics at Moparmax.com of both of the Wescot's cars at Indy.
http://www.moparmax.com/events/2009/iv_9-hemi-1.html
The vents look like they are holding the scoop up LOL. Conventional wisdom says that should not work . Duh.
I think I would try the short aero scoop on top of your existing cowl hood like a few others have suggested.
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I`ve been debating the issue of air horn clearance for years simply based on the super stock hemi`s......
