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Eagle or K1 rods? #463453
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Looking at H beam rods for my 505 stroked 440. Whats the best rod I can get without going aluminum. My 440 source rod ruined my block all rods, crank and one indy head so im definetly not going that route again.

Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: 68gtxsurvivor] #463454
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i sell both, but i prefer the K-1's. if i can help, PM me.

Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: 68gtxsurvivor] #463455
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Looking at H beam rods for my 505 stroked 440. Whats the best rod I can get without going aluminum. My 440 source rod ruined my block all rods, crank and one indy head so im definetly not going that route again.




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Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: Hemiroid] #463456
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Oliver, Howards, Crower, K1, King, Lentz, Compstar, Corillo, Manley, childs and alberts,

All are GREAT rods,

Eagle, scat, lunati, are all good rods...

We had Oliver Rods in our 588, It was a good piece, Someone out there has it now in an avenger, and I was told its haulin ass again. My buddy has King rods in his late model, and it takes 30+ laps of 8000-idle-8000 rpm and still kicks it hard.

Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: 68gtxsurvivor] #463457
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Going on 8 1/2 years w/chevy style 6.385 eagles and will re-use em again w/new bolts and a re-hone.


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Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: Thumperdart] #463458
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Oliver billet are my first choice...I use a lot of K1's but I don't reuse them when an engine comes in for a freshen

Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: RobR] #463459
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I'm using some of Ohio Crankshaft's heavy duty i-beams in my big block. Very nice rods and needed no extra work.


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Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: Moparnut426] #463460
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Don't forget Cunningham rods.

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Where can I pickup the ohio crank I beams and whats the cost

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Where can I pickup the ohio crank I beams and whats the cost




you can pick them up from ohio crankshaft.
it would be wise to have your machinist disassemble them, reassemble, stretch the bolts to spec. for whatever bolts they come with and then check them for size and roundness.
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We have K1 rods and crank in our 7 second street C-body. Have been in use for three years now, so far so good. We must be making well over 1000 hp.


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Man I have been out of the loop for a while, when did Ohio start making rods? Or are they re-packaged something-elses?

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Man I have been out of the loop for a while, when did Ohio start making rods? Or are they re-packaged something-elses?




I'm pretty sure every shop that makes an h-beam rod all has the same supplier they just finish machine the rods and add bolts. Ohio's I-beam rods though I guess are stamped in house or Ohio has another company make them. I did have mine checked after I stretched the bolts a couple of times, they did not need any honing done. I have two full seasons on them now. K1 is a great rod as well and Dram can fix you up on those.


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Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: Jacob Pitt] #463466
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I'm pretty sure every shop that makes an h-beam rod all has the same supplier they just finish machine the rods and add bolts.




No way. A couple of years ago there were pictures posted of a bunch of different brand H beams and there were obvious differences between many of them. They were ALL forged in China. Some were machined in china, some in USA.


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I'm pretty sure every shop that makes an h-beam rod all has the same supplier they just finish machine the rods and add bolts.




No way. A couple of years ago there were pictures posted of a bunch of different brand H beams and there were obvious differences between many of them. They were ALL forged in China. Some were machined in china, some in USA.




That is what I meant, they all get them from the same place and machine them in house.


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If someone can repost or link to the pics you will see that they are not the same forging.


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Are youguys sure about that,,,

The compstar H beams, The K1, and Manley H beams look way different than the eagles, scat, and cat rods..

Im no expert, but I have looked them over pretty hard side by side here at the local machine shop..

Kasey

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You can add 440 Source to that list. I think you may find differences in all of the rods mentioned so far. There is NOT just one factory forging every Chinese rod.


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Re: Eagle or K1 rods? [Re: GomangoCuda] #463471
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What would you guys use? K1 H beams or ohio cranks I beams. 505 ci 440 11 to 1 comp. indy -1's

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What would you guys use? K1 H beams or ohio cranks I beams. 505 ci 440 11 to 1 comp. indy -1's




They are both great rods that would live forever in this motor. Here is a link to the Ohio rods.http://ohiocrank.com/ibeam_rods.html


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