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Aluminum Block Question #459308
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Would you paint it or leave it bare.... what protection is there if you leave it bare so no oxidation occurs? or if you painted it whats the best route....

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Re: Aluminum Block Question [Re: moparniac] #459309
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I would paint it to prevent that white oxidation. The right primer will help the paint stick a lot better. A self etching primer would be good and epoxy even better followed by the engine paint of your choice.

Clean first with detergent and water then solvent. Wax and grease remover, lacquer thinner and brake cleaner would work well

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where do you get etching primer?


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Re: Aluminum Block Question [Re: moparniac] #459311
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I hate paint, I prefer the "unfinished" look


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Re: Aluminum Block Question [Re: moparniac] #459312
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leave it alone or clear it. Mine is raw.


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Re: Aluminum Block Question [Re: bigtimeauto] #459313
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two pak oven roasted here. you gotta come up close to my engine to realise it's alloy.

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it's been apart 5 times since i coated it. the coating sticks real well. just needs a little tlc to keep it looking good.

Re: Aluminum Block Question [Re: moparniac] #459315
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You need zinc chromate primer for aluminum, aircraft supply stores like Aircraft Spruce or Chiefs Aircarft Supplys in Grants Pass, Oregon stock, sell and will ship all the chemicals you need for painting raw aluminum properly Prepping and painting aluminum is a three or four step process at least , not a two step like steel or iron


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You need zinc chromate primer for aluminum, aircraft supply stores like Aircraft Spruce or Chiefs Aircarft Supplys in Grants Pass, Oregon stock, sell and will ship all the chemicals you need for painting raw aluminum properly Prepping and painting aluminum is a three or four step process at least , not a two step like steel or iron




Aren't all "zinc Chromate" primers self etching? Dupont "Variprime" is the automotive version. But there are decent self etching primers that are not zinc chromate. FWIW, zinc chromate is fairly toxic and likely soon to be banned. I have used self etching spray can primers from the local Advance auto store for $4.99 a can with great success for many years for small jobs/items. A side benefit is it is removeable with lacquer thinner, where epoxy is primer is not. I wouldn't paint it unless road salt or coastal exposure is likely.


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where do you get etching primer?




Eastwood sells it in aerosol and liquid. Automotive paint shops often have it as well.

I used the Eastwood primer on an iron block engine with lots of aluminum components and it is holding well.

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the aluminum will only oxidize if you drive your car through a salty winter road. I found out the hard way with the convertible coming back from Florida during the last week of February. I cleaned them off and they haven't oxidized in the last two years. bare aluminum heads. oh and it is machined surfaces you have to worry about. the cast portion of the heads didn't oxidize, only the flat machined ends. (Mopar "452" heads)

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oh and it is machined surfaces you have to worry about. the cast portion of the heads didn't oxidize, only the flat machined ends.




mine's the opposite...the Indy intake has oxidized a little bit, the motor plate has not.

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the aluminum will only oxidize if you drive your car through a salty winter road. I found out the hard way with the convertible coming back from Florida during the last week of February. I cleaned them off and they haven't oxidized in the last two years. bare aluminum heads. oh and it is machined surfaces you have to worry about. the cast portion of the heads didn't oxidize, only the flat machined ends. (Mopar "452" heads)




Not true. Moisture makes it oxidize. We never have salty roads here, yet mine oxidized after condensation got on it.

I just painted mine w/ Engine paint, looks great to me. CHIP


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the aluminum will only oxidize if you drive your car through a salty winter road. I found out the hard way with the convertible coming back from Florida during the last week of February. I cleaned them off and they haven't oxidized in the last two years. bare aluminum heads. oh and it is machined surfaces you have to worry about. the cast portion of the heads didn't oxidize, only the flat machined ends. (Mopar "452" heads)




Not true. Moisture makes it oxidize. We never have salty roads here, yet mine oxidized after condensation got on it.

I just painted mine w/ Engine paint, looks great to me. CHIP




no primer or anything.... my fav engine paint color is rattle can "street" hemi orange


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this 3 week wait is gonna suck . I want my block now


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