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Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: fstfish66] #455270
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looks like photofhucket still having issues and my pictures can't be viewed. Just click on a pic if you need to see them.

Looks like I found a nice altanative to a clip job and will be getting the specs for everyone here to view soon. If this works out, I'll have a complete frontend with disc, swaybar, powere brakes, rack/pinion tilt column and drivetrain installed for about $5k, and I won't have a lift a finger to do it.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: migsBIG] #455271
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I can tell you My Fab guy builds hot rod FRAMES from end to end for about $5500 fairly complete
of course that is NC dollars.
this guy is no Rookie he has had to cars make National roadster show that he fabed

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: migsBIG] #455272
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migsBIG, if you are looking for good shops in our area, I highly recommend signing up on www.norcal1320.com and checking out the message board. Theres a whole vendors section with local fabricators that are up to any task.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: Devilbrad] #455273
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Thanks brad, appreciate that. My friends father builds rods and might have found a solution. Going to reweld the shocks to either the control arms or the frame, use a cavalier rack n pinion and convert to small block, auto trans and disc brakes while using the stock components. The nice thing is that he won't have to clip it, fab any custom panels, keeps the price down and makes it save enough for my pops to cruise around town. I'll see if he can take pictures of it when he gets it to his shop.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: fstfish66] #455274
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rod, nice looking frame



Thanks. It's dirty and ugly now, after sitting out for years.

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I'll have to find out what the correct coil spring to put back in,but im considering a universal air bag kit from air ride,,just in the front,no tank just seperate lines and shrader valves,,,hopng to get on it over the winter,,any one know the correct front coil size ?and where to purchase them ?thanks




No, I have also considered this, since my springs are tired. Another thing I'm looking at is 2 different springs, since the engine offset adds more weight to the right side. I'm going to see if I can find a local circle track racer with wheel scales so I can get a better idea of what the difference is side-to-side. Iactually worked on it a little yesterday, getting ready to get more done with the help of some friends.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: RodStRace] #455275
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Looks like we might be able to get it to his shop by christmas, so things are looking like a go. To fund the project, will have to say good bye to Matt's 79' stepside his brother sold me. Also decided with the funds from the project, going to do a few added things.

Have the car completly rewired with new gauges.

COnvert to disc brakes, have two companies in mind that use the stock spindles.

redo the gastank

add new glass, seals

convert to power booster. Might see if one from a 1974 dodge truck will work on the firewall as it's really small and easier to access than getting on the frame rail mounted ones.

New tires and wheels, probably upgrade to some 15x7 if they will clear the wells.

1966 imperial floor shift tilt/telescopic column.

1968 charger 8 3/4 rearend.

Will see if my local buddies want the stock drivetrain, as I don't need a desoto overdrive or duel carbed fenton flathead six (sorry, I don't want to sell these parts to moparts members) and other parts to help fund the project. If things work out, He could be cruising by next summer!

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of vic [Re: migsBIG] #455276
11/25/09 01:32 PM
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Looks like dad wants the stepside, so the streetrod has changed priorities. Disc brake conversions, rebuild original suspension, replace front springs, modify front shock location, convert wiring harness over to aftermarket one, b-body 8 3/4 swap, fresh gastank. Still trying to decide if the flathead with the overdrive chevy trans is good, or 360/at conversion with stock manual steering will be better.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of vic [Re: migsBIG] #455277
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Looks like you want a quality job...be prepared to spend $$$$ as cheap as I am I did it for the price of the doner car ...a 1986 Chrysler 5th ave $250.00 and some work..I got torsion bar suspension ,power steering , disc brakes, steering colume with tilt wheel, and anything else I could take from it..the K frame is set up for a small block...Car rides smooth and straight,and with the 440 I have runs a consistant 12.50 @ 107 mph,,I just came back from a 3000 mile round trip to NJ.and enjoyed the ride..I know I will hear a lot of noise from those who don't like that install ,,,but it works fine for me in my 1956 Plymouth

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Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of vic [Re: dynamite] #455278
11/27/09 01:33 AM
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wont hear any flack from me,,,i think its kool,and most people encluding me probably couldnt do it properly,,,

i have a few friends in maryland,both mopar street rods,,that have some how swapped some pieces around and used C body k frames and torsion bar set ups,,ive never seen that before nor would i of thunk it,,


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Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: stateline] #455279
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Guess Im not a big spender , 68 Chry NY front sub frame into 53 Hudson Hornet, thats $300 worth or so including the engine and trans




update.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: stateline] #455280
11/29/09 02:21 PM
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ide say its very kool,,why not use what ya can,,and recycle the old parts,,lol,,,bettter riding car,,and saved a ton of bucks,,thats hot rodding,
would love to see pics of the subframe


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Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of vic [Re: fstfish66] #455281
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That would nice for the modern suspension, but the zar never handled badly when we drove it. Problem was more like less than capable braking, unknown short in charging system and cut front spings really were annoying. Ad the difficulty of the od manual trans with my large size and stock steering wheel and this car was less appealing to drive for me or my dad. I think with the upgraded stock suspension, disc upgrade, newer parts will make this car a more fun-to-cruise.

Still trying to decide on a 360 at conversion or stock flathead with an automatic trans conversion.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of vic [Re: migsBIG] #455282
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I gotta tell you, I had a 3.9 V6 with an auto in my 39 Plymouth coupe. Though it drove ok with the brake upgrade and rack & pinoin steering (and a Dakota tilt column), fun wasn't exactly how I would discribe the way it drove. I'm sure my 3.9 had a lot more power (even though it needed a rebuild) then your flathead 6 has, and I was pretty disapointed with the power output. If your thinking about putting an auto trans in your car, I would suggest you at least put in a 318 in front of that auto. The flatheads were OK with a manual trans, but I suspect they would be pretty dead with even a good auto behind it. Ever drove a flathead with the fluid drive? The modern trans would be a step above that, but not a very large step. If you really want it to be "fun" install the V8. Gene

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of vic [Re: poorboy] #455283
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Yes, the v option has ben brewing, plus parts finding would be easier.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of vic [Re: migsBIG] #455284
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project delayed due to funds. Might have to cancel everything til next year.

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: stateline] #455285
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Guess Im not a big spender , 68 Chry NY front sub frame into 53 Hudson Hornet, thats $300 worth or so including the engine and trans




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pretty much road ready

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Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: stateline] #455286
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That looks very very,,, nice...

Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: stateline] #455287
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Guess Im not a big spender , 68 Chry NY front sub frame into 53 Hudson Hornet, thats $300 worth or so including the engine and trans




update.




pretty much road ready




kool swap,,,neat car


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Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: fstfish66] #455288
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stepdown Hudsons are so cool !

and it's part of the Chrysler family tree in a way also ...

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Re: cost putting subframe in older car? pictures of victim. [Re: 1972cudaguy] #455289
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A shot of the dash , car uses all stock 70 B body wiring - with Charger dash and radio .

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