Re: 413 info
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the major diff between the two 413,s is the heads, if you inspect them the industial heads dont look anything like a set of street ones(452,906,915, etc.) Iaso believe that the reverse rotation cam was only on boats with twin engines 1 stbd 1 port the reason is for coter-rotating props.
Not all reverse rotation Marine motors were one of a pair. The single motor boats with Vdrive used them. Vdrive motors sit at the rear of the boat backwards with the trans and V unit going forward. The motors used a timing chain and reverse cam. I hope the same cam the 413-3 with gear drive uses is the one used in rev rot marine 440s. I have a 413-3 gear drive set coming from a Moparts member that I think will allow me to run a std rotation cam in the rev rotation 440 in my Century Arabian19. Any ideas as to whether a twin gear drive with a standard rotation cam will run a 440 backwards?
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Re: 413 info
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Re: 413 info
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I see this is an old post but I was wondering if you did have pistons made for the 413-1 ? I have mine torn apart now trying to track down some engine noise , I'm thinking about putting a new cam in it . Not sure if I can find a replacement close to stock, I gotta make some calls I guess, any camshaft in mind that would fit this motor?Anyway, Thanks for any input Not sure how you thought reviving a dead 10 year old thread that was mostly a pissing contest was gonna help, a fresh thread would have done better, mostly because old Doc flappergasser will fire back up and this thread will turn too poo again. That said any custom piston maker will make whatever piston you want. Or you could have looked at Summit Racing and see what they had. Back when I redid the 413 in my 64 300 I ran the old DC Street Hemi grind in it. Basically it had the same specs as the Hemi but n a B/RB cam, P4452993AE is the latest version.
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Re: 413 info
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I took a 1972 413-3 short block in trade on assembling a 440 motor for a local customer, I ended up using one of Ma Mopar 4.15 stroke 8 bolt stroker crankshaft in it along with having Racetec make me a set of 4.250 bore pistons of a set of Eagle forged steel H beam street hemi rods I had from another customer who step up to a 4.25 stroke crank with a set of 7.100 long BB Chevy type H beam Molnar rods with the 2000 ARP bolts in them. I'm going to use that motor in a 1963 Plymouth Fury project car I bought several years ago, tell the local GM and Ford guys it has a old 413 truck motor in it with a set of aluminum heads
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Re: 413 info
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I've used several 413-3 truck blocks in my racing days in my 1963 M.W Plymouth Belevere in NHRA stock class after breaking a rod and ruining the original 426 M.W. block I did have them sonic tested and maganflux first, one of them may have ended u p being bore to 4.280 to start with, maybe not CRS I would have the crankshafts offset ground to increase the stroke .013 I'm not sure if the 413 blocks in the early 300 where special or not like the marine, industrial and truck blocks where later I bought a 1957 300 C hardtop in in 1968 for $500.00 after getting out of the Army, that was out family car for a long time I had a chance to buy a ready to drive1959 Fconvertible in early 1965 for $200.00 from a local garage in 29 Palms ,CA. I didn't because I liked the Hemi motors
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Re: 413 info
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I see this is an old post but I was wondering if you did have pistons made for the 413-1 ? I have mine torn apart now trying to track down some engine noise , I'm thinking about putting a new cam in it . Not sure if I can find a replacement close to stock, I gotta make some calls I guess, any camshaft in mind that would fit this motor?Anyway, Thanks for any input Not sure how you thought reviving a dead 10 year old thread that was mostly a pissing contest was gonna help, a fresh thread would have done better, mostly because old Doc flappergasser will fire back up and this thread will turn too poo again. That said any custom piston maker will make whatever piston you want. Or you could have looked at Summit Racing and see what they had. Back when I redid the 413 in my 64 300 I ran the old DC Street Hemi grind in it. Basically it had the same specs as the Hemi but n a B/RB cam, P4452993AE is the latest version. Hay Snoopy .... that’s Duck FlipperMaster ! Reasonable replacement pistons are still available out there
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Re: 413 info
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Snoopster..... 90 beans each ?
WHERE are you shopping?
I’ll sell you mine for 80 clams each and use that loot to put a hefty down payment on a canal lot in da Keys ! Did you click on the Summit link I posted? No one wants used pistons for $80 a crack either.
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Re: 413 info
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Snoopster ... please fOcUs ! There’s a NEW SET on eBay RIGHT NOW for 399 all day long And the last set I got on eBay was a cast set that was in a rebuild that went bad .... barely 20 miles or so ... a pig fat Berry carb ... among other things. Other than the piston pic - WHAT SPEC would you ask for ? THIS SET -!like 110$ ! Another set of NEW std bore 426 MW 11 to ones ... no pins ... 150$. To the guy who doesn’t like cast pistons ... they are fine in a NA motor.
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Re: 413 info
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IMHO, the best thing to do with an Indust. 413 it ditch all of the guts and add a stroker crank to make a 426 wedge engine out of it. way cheaper than a real 426 wedge or max wedge engine now days.
and I do think it is all over the counter parts readily available today. that block is the [censored] for a cloning 426 max wedges.
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You realize a 426 wedge is a .0625 over 413? Not sure anyone makes that tiny a stroker crank to turn a 413 into a 426. As for the Ebay pistons, no link no exist.
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