Re: WJ's comments on NHRA...thoughts?
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That and also the comment about screwing the fans... he has some valid points about the NHRA babying the fuel guys and the hell with the other 99%
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What did he say exactly ? You HAVE to respect a guy like that...EVEN THOUGH he is very-much OUTspoken. Most of us here would probably LOVE to know about HP builds ... just what he has forgotten.
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I pretty much agree with what he said, we don't need any more deaths in the Fuel ranks, or any other for that matter. Slow the cars down 90% of the fans won't know the difference. If you could make them run 4.50's to 1000' and tell everyone they're running to the 1/4 again, half the people wouldn't know a difference other than the sub 300mph speeds.
The water seepage is unacceptable, we deal with it up here at pacific, if water is coming up, a car doesn't go down til its fixed. Negligence on NHRA's part in this area could severly cost them if someone got hurt.
I'm glad he said something, and I'm sure many agree with him, including many sportsman racers who are the heart of this sport.
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How do you adjust for water coming out of the track?
ask the other 99% of the racers that made it down the track going 6.64 - 6.71 -- i have no idea
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Re: WJ's comments on NHRA...thoughts?
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I now think "Pinks All Out" has proven that you can fill the stands WITHOUT TOP FUEL or FUNNY CAR.. Rich Christensen has exposed NHRA on this one.. He uses the grass roots racer to give everyone a great show. Ratings, I'm sure are higher than NHRA and the stands are full.. Like him or hate him, he has exposed a weakness in the NHRA Pro racers.. It may fade away, but for now, people are coming out in droves.. Best time I've ever had racing. Chris..
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WJ has been complaining about the fuel cars for years. He used to complain all the time that the P/S cars couldn't get down the track because of the clutch dust from the "silly cars".
Yes, NHRA does cater to the fuel cars. You tend to do that when they are the ones paying the bills. WJ needs to remember that P/S and PSB run before fuel so that there are people in the stands when they run. They used to run P/S last and as soon as the last fuel car lit the stands started emptying out like you flushed a toilet.
P/S and everything else are merely space fillers for fuel.
Water through the track is unacceptable, but your only other recourse is to postpone the event for a day or 2 until the groundwater level goes back down. They fight this all over the place. They crashed cars at National Trails and Norwalk because of it.
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Re: WJ's comments on NHRA...thoughts?
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Water through the track is unacceptable, but your only other recourse is to postpone the event for a day or 2 until the groundwater level goes back down. They fight this all over the place. They crashed cars at National Trails and Norwalk because of it.
I crashed my TAD at National Trails because of water coming up through the cracks. Same day, same lane that Jason Line crashed his pro stock car. It sucks but what can you do about it after the fact?
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I applaud what he said.He was spot on with his comments,and truth be known,he's actually a real nice guy.Can't argue with his work ethic either.
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I now think "Pinks All Out" has proven that you can fill the stands WITHOUT TOP FUEL or FUNNY CAR..
Rich Christensen has exposed NHRA on this one..
He uses the grass roots racer to give everyone a great show. Ratings, I'm sure are higher than NHRA and the stands are full..
Like him or hate him, he has exposed a weakness in the NHRA Pro racers..
It may fade away, but for now, people are coming out in droves..
Best time I've ever had racing.
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I think its cool that he had the balls to say something against the great and almighty NHRA. Him and Larry Morgan have been some of the only racers i have seen call NHRA out on stuff.
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The Baders at Norwalk spend a ton of money.They are very fan oriented people.Ive seen the old man hammer employees because a fan had an issue.Its totally unacceptable to him to have a fan complain.NHRA dosent care about anything except $$$$$ period.National trails should have been pulled as a national event years ago its a dump.There are a few track that fuel cars should not be run at because they arent long enough.Speed is the thing.How would most feel if they told you hey you are running X in this class.Thats too fast slow down.But if you want to run fuel make sure the track is safe.Im suprised fuel cars havent sued them already.How can you set a record for 20 points in 1000 feet.In their NASCAR points system that could mean being in or out.Rocky
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Love him or hate him, you've got to respect him. You know exactly where you stand with WJ, he'll tell you no BS the way he feels. I wish more folks were like that.
He is spot on. NHRA only cares about the fuel guys, period. All the others are only there to feed Glendora money to support their program.
I really haven't watched NHRA racing in years....it is so far removed from the sport I've been involved with for forty plus years it is not even recognizable anymore.
I dropped my NHRA membership years ago....I only belong to IHRA now.
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Love him or hate him, you've got to respect him. You know exactly where you stand with WJ, he'll tell you no BS the way he feels. I wish more folks were like that.
He is spot on. NHRA only cares about the fuel guys, period. All the others are only there to feed Glendora money to support their program.
I really haven't watched NHRA racing in years....it is so far removed from the sport I've been involved with for forty plus years it is not even recognizable anymore.
I dropped my NHRA membership years ago....I only belong to IHRA now.
Nostalgia Super Stock racing is where it's at!!
Nhra ceased to exist when they hired Dallas Gardner and dropped modified eliminator, oh jeez, I am showing my age again.
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Watch the races sometimes.Antron is their new posted boy.Ever time you watch they have him on 50 times.He was the biggest crier their was in PSM.Him and Angel.They cried about the lights then they cried about the Harleys.Im still waitin for Antron to have one good blow up in that dragster.As far as WJ I dont like him either but he does say what he thinks.Then you have Jeggy that wont say crap.Maybe he is worried that they might not give him his promo spots.Tony Stewart in NASCAR is another driver I like even though I dont follow it.He says what he thinks and dosent care if they like it or not.At least Ashley wasnt crying and whining on TV when she got DQd for being light.Good old Angel was bawling like a baby when she did and they even tried adding her helmet and stuff so she wasnt light.Like John said rules are rules she was light and thats it.Rocky
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Yes she was light, but Im sure ESPN will be talking about it next time they race.
In Topeka this year, I heard some other racers complaining about the amount of air time they get. I had VIP tickets and was in the Capps tent. I wont name any names, but They said they need a pilots liscense due to the air time they get. Also complained how they win a round of racing, never get an interview, but when ashley, or any JFR driver fails to make another round they get the interview, and all the plug spots. It really has gotten pretty bad, and I hope NHRA see's it soon or they will only have JFR fans.
I would like to see Antron get a good POP, or a Blower backfire and POOF... He would probably cry, and his voice might get a little higher. Who knows I have never looked close at him, but he might have white racing gloves with rinestones on them...
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Biggest problem is you arent getting 40000 people to pay to watch sportsman racing.The nitro cars fill the stands and bring the big $$$$.I agree the little guy pays and gets not much back.But I race because I like it.Rocky
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Modified Eliminator!!! There's a voice from the grave.
I was at Indy the year they held their "protest".....all the Modified cars paraded down the return road while eliminations were going on with "Save Modified Eliminator" signs. It didn't work....despite NHRA's statement that "we have no plans to drop Modified, etc. etc. etc...."
Unfortunately, even PS is boring...although it is by far the best of what they have to offer. It would be much better if they would use recognizable bodies....Challengers, Camaros, and Mustangs.....keep the big inch motors (no small motors), but make them use automatics or something of that like. Real Pro Stock cars used to wheelstand, jump around, be entertaining. These new cars are so smooth they are like watching paint dry. And, they all look alike.
As far as fuel cars go.....ho-hum, you've seen one, you've seen them all.
You are spot on about Dallas Gardner....he was the first in a long parade of yuppies running NHRA.
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The Baders at Norwalk spend a ton of money.They are very fan oriented people.National trails should have been pulled as a national event years ago its a dump.There
I've heard good things about the Baders ..from what i've been told National trails IS a dump,thats why NHRA pulled the plug and races at Norwalk now,one of the reasons we don't attend the mopar nationals they run at the dump...
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WJ speaks his mind , you got to respect him for that. JFR is all NHRA really has, there was a bunch of stuff the last week or so about some testing conflict Graham Light from NHRA is defending JFR, of course he is. The big brass of NHRA are like polititions, so far removed from the average person that they have no idea, all they know is how to line their pockets with $$$.
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Now, back to the problem. Some of these asphalt tracks are just out of date. Heck an asphalt track is over 50 year old technology. The all concrete drag strip has also been around for over 20 years. There is a full concrete drag strip with a full concrete shut down in Earlville, IA and it been around for 12 years or more. Now you have cooling tubes and other ways to drain water off a track. New basses under the track so you dont get water seapage up threw the track. Yes it cost a lot of money to build this stuff, but that is what it takes to have an event pulling in thousand's of thousand's of people each spending hunderds of $$$. Whatever class you like, so be it, but if the tracks don't make it work for all classes, then that track might not get a national event next season.
And WJ lives in his world, not a fans world.
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The Baders at Norwalk spend a ton of money.They are very fan oriented people.National trails should have been pulled as a national event years ago its a dump.There
I've heard good things about the Baders ..from what i've been told National trails IS a dump,thats why NHRA pulled the plug and races at Norwalk now,one of the reasons we don't attend the mopar nationals they run at the dump...
Doesn't NHRA own National Trails?, they have all of the money in the world and yet they do nothing to improve their tracks except for coming up with more marketing brainstorms like Indy's top eliminator club, oohh Please!
I don't attend national events anymore since they transformed themselves to the circus format, you don't need to pay big money to hear the carnival barkers there when you can turn on any cable news show and get similar BS for a lot less.
I love Nostaglia Super stock racing and any kind of heads up format, this summers Pinks event at Martin was filled to capacity and beyond. NHRA, should take notes.
I too was at Indy for the infamous Modified protest and it was all to obvious even back then how little respect they had for the racers opinions.
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I have never been a big WJ fan but i think it was great that he said that.
Prostock is the best and more sportsman racing would great, lets see some comp elim, nitro cars are just a show.
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The Baders at Norwalk spend a ton of money.They are very fan oriented people.National trails should have been pulled as a national event years ago its a dump.There
I've heard good things about the Baders ..from what i've been told National trails IS a dump,thats why NHRA pulled the plug and races at Norwalk now,one of the reasons we don't attend the mopar nationals they run at the dump...
Doesn't NHRA own National Trails?, they have all of the money in the world and yet they do nothing to improve their tracks except for coming up with more marketing brainstorms like Indy's top eliminator club, oohh Please!
I don't attend national events anymore since they transformed themselves to the circus format, you don't need to pay big money to hear the carnival barkers there when you can turn on any cable news show and get similar BS for a lot less.
I love Nostaglia Super stock racing and any kind of heads up format, this summers Pinks event at Martin was filled to capacity and beyond. NHRA, should take notes.
I too was at Indy for the infamous Modified protest and it was all to obvious even back then how little respect they had for the racers opinions.
Joey
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That promotion was brought on by Pontiac. In fact if you ask him he thought they were pulling the plug back then, that is why he did what he did. Like him or not, WJ is a straight shooter. That comparision is like Jr and Budwiser. How many millions did they make from that knowing they were not resigning. It does not matter what day of the week or time of day, I go past the shop, those guys are working. Yes, out spoken, but I would bet Jegs and Anderson were saying the same thing to G Light. I wonder if the track is the reason Alan Johnson did not make the show? I don't know, just speculating.
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I like WJ for his work ethic, but as far as saying NHRA is hosing the fans, I have to ask. Did Warren give the fans all their money back for all the 'School's Out Tour' memorabilia when he "retired" a few years ago?
That certainly was a scam, wasn't it?
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It wasn't a scam by any definition. WJ had started driving better at the tail end of that year, and the sponsor kicked in enough dough to fund two cars. He would be out this year if K&N hadn't stepped up in the 11th hour. I expect a real retirement next year.
How about the Mopar effort? Morgan is going Ford, Jones is going Pontiac, no word on V, that leaves Johnson and Gray. Maybe Panella?
It was a scam. If not, it should have been a "i'm not racing anymore because my sponsor thinks I am too old" gig instead of it appearing to be his choice of retirement.
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I see a lot of love for WJ in this thread but I know a local man where I grew up that had to go to GA to demand his engine from WJ after far longer than he should had to wait.
Good ole WJ had no trouble cashing the check and lying over the phone repeatedly.
The local man got an engine that day after much "discussion" in person.
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I wonder if the track is the reason Alan Johnson did not make the show?
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How many times have other drivers Retired?Look at Scelzi Bernstein and a few others.Then look at other sports.Farve retired then says I want to play again.Its a money game.Brings in more bucks that all.Funny no body sees a problem when Muldowne or Garlits retires then comes back to run Just a few races.That and its in their blood.They need the spotlight too.As far as AJ not qualifing he shoots himself in the foot more than any other driver out there.If that car was being driven by like Alderman or Geffreion I bet it would have won a lot more.Rocky
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How many times have other drivers Retired?Look at Scelzi Bernstein and a few others.Then look at other sports.Farve retired then says I want to play again.Its a money game.Brings in more bucks that all.Funny no body sees a problem when Muldowne or Garlits retires then comes back to run Just a few races.That and its in their blood.They need the spotlight too.As far as AJ not qualifing he shoots himself in the foot more than any other driver out there.If that car was being driven by like Alderman or Geffreion I bet it would have won a lot more.Rocky
Did they all sell stuff on the notion that they won't be back in the sport again, and this would be your last chance?
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08/25/09 10:22 AM
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Bernstein sure did.Rember his goinf away tour and then they had his special car for sale too as a collectable.Look at some of the major league pitchers.How many times did Clemens retire?They had his glove ball and other crap put in the HOF.Because it was the last one.I think he retired what 4 times.It draws the fans which makes more $$$$$.Rocky
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Bernstein sure did.Rember his goinf away tour and then they had his special car for sale too as a collectable.Look at some of the major league pitchers.How many times did Clemens retire?They had his glove ball and other crap put in the HOF.Because it was the last one.I think he retired what 4 times.It draws the fans which makes more $$$$$.Rocky
Clemens never really retired until the final year he played,any time before that he was making up his mind or weather to retire or come back..
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On that note: on Drag Race Central theres a letter from the Maple Grove managment apoligizing for the delays and problems this past weekend. Sure hope they straighten them out before I go there for the NED Bracket Finals in a month or so.
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Re: WJ's comments on NHRA...thoughts?
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Clemens did retire from the Yankees.They took all kinds of stuff for theBBHOF.Then lets see Texas offers him big $$$ and he unretires.Then the next year he was retiring again till the wallets came out again.Almost at bad as some of the old boxers that did it.Maybe they should go to the WWE.Those guys retire every year.Rocky
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As far as AJ not qualifing he shoots himself in the foot more than any other driver out there.
way too many aborted runs for a car of that caliber
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Clemens did retire from the Yankees.They took all kinds of stuff for theBBHOF.Then lets see Texas offers him big $$$ and he unretires.Then the next year he was retiring again till the wallets came out again.Almost at bad as some of the old boxers that did it.Maybe they should go to the WWE.Those guys retire every year.Rocky
Don't recall that retirement press conference..but Clemens did go to Houston along with Pettite because he wanted to be closer to family and home..then came back to the Yankees mid-season the following year or the year after..
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