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Stage VII heads ??? #439264
08/15/09 11:07 PM
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Was at Moparfest today and got my new Mopar performance book (finally they have a new one) in it they list a stage VII head anybody know anything???

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Raised port aluminum wedge head. Basically a Mopar version of the Victor head.

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Raised port aluminum wedge head. Basically a Mopar version of the Victor head.




the Victor head was basically the Edelbrock version of a stage VI head

Re: Stage VII heads ??? [Re: CokeBottleKid] #439267
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Raised port aluminum wedge head. Basically a Mopar version of the Victor head.




the Victor head was basically the Edelbrock version of a stage VI head




OK, I'm confused. The regular (non-victor) Edelbrock and the regular Stage VI use non-offset rockers, while the Victor is similar to a 440-1. Right? It sounds like this new VII is a step up to the Victor/-1 level. If that's all it is, BFD. If Mopar did something to raise the bar, (longer valves comes to mind...) great. Any details as of yet?

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I believe that the Mopar version of the Vics was released about the same time as Edelbrocks... in 2007.

I don't know that there are ANY significant differences between the two.

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Still does not seem to be a lot of info??

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Just like MP has Edelbrock make the equivalent of the Performer RPM head for them as the "new" 452 head, they have Edelbrock make the Victor head now as the "Stage VII".

Yes, the Victor is IMO an updated Stage VI. I own both, so it's a pretty easy comparison to make. In that respect, it's not too far fetched for MP to consider it a "Stage VII"...

Re: Stage VII heads ??? [Re: moeflo] #439271
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Raised port aluminum wedge head. Basically a Mopar version of the Victor head.




the Victor head was basically the Edelbrock version of a stage VI head




OK, I'm confused. The regular (non-victor) Edelbrock and the regular Stage VI use non-offset rockers, while the Victor is similar to a 440-1. Right? It sounds like this new VII is a step up to the Victor/-1 level. If that's all it is, BFD. If Mopar did something to raise the bar, (longer valves comes to mind...) great. Any details as of yet?




Moe this stuff is too low tech for you to worry about..lol..But your right the most basic Stage 6 uses straight rockers but the Max Wedge versions got the offset rockers. So in that sense, the Victor copy Stage 7 is not like the Stage 6 since there are not two versions of rocker gear. But I also agree, that the Victor is not that big of a deal or superior to the Stage 6...specially if you were to consider the Chapman Stage 6s. I was hoping Edlebrock would make the Victor more like a B1(at least)with longer valves, etc. Actually, I was hopin for something more like the Brewer head..a real contender in the wedge wars.

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Was the Vic/Stage VII head designed by Edelbrock... or by Mopar?



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Was the Vic/Stage VII head designed by Edelbrock... or by Mopar?






Edlebrock. It may have a mopar part number and logo but thats the only difference...same casting.

Re: Stage VII heads ??? [Re: B1Fish540] #439274
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Good to see there are a few who understand where the Stage VII marketing name came from, because the name makes alot of sense to me.

I haven't worked with one personally yet but have been told there are a couple changes that have been done to it to make it more user friendly. Was told in a vague kind of way the machining for distributor clearance and pushrod clearance is set up differently.

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Good to see there are a few who understand where the Stage VII marketing name came from, because the name makes alot of sense to me.

I haven't worked with one personally yet but have been told there are a couple changes that have been done to it to make it more user friendly. Was told in a vague kind of way the machining for distributor clearance and pushrod clearance is set up differently.




Zippy, I realize it has to be user freindly, my remarks were more esoteric..wishful thinking, if you will. So, in that way, the Stg 7 is an "improvemnt" over both the 6 and the Victor..if it does indeed have the refinements you mention.

Re: Stage VII heads ??? [Re: B1Fish540] #439276
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n/p bud, it's all good. Nothing harsh about your comments, not at all.

I really need to look at/take pictures of a Stage VII and a Victor right next to each other to verify that stuff. I was told that info by a marketing guy (not an engineer) so it'd be best to see the stuff first hand to make sure I understood all that correctly. '

At any rate here is a shot of a 528 Wedge with Stage VII's and Andy F's favorite 337 intake....looking for all the world like an MP crate engine but it isn't....not yet, anyway


Re: Stage VII heads ??? [Re: ZIPPY] #439277
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Nice looking crate motor. That is a 800+ hp combo crate engine if it has some compression and the right cam.

The Edelbrock fuel rails will fit that intake so it could be a 800+ hp EFI crate motor with a little development work.

I like the Stage VII name, it certainly fits and is a logical extension of the brand.

Re: Stage VII heads ??? [Re: AndyF] #439278
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Now that would be cool!







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