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another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY #436996
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Has anyone fit the HHR fan in a Big block A body ?

If so--give details



Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #436997
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One of the best things I have done. I did have to trim the support both side to side and the amll lip at the top the goes toward the rear of the car. I had to do that to move the Rad/fan combo forward so it didn't hit the WP. Took all of 10 minutes and then made some mounts and has been great.

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #436998
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Bring it over to the shop.
I have the tool to make it fit!

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ok Ron- im not afraid to do any "trimming" , seems like it would only need moved maybe 1/2" ?

wondering if anyone has fit this fan on the front side?



Steve , i already have that special tool

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437000
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I have the fan on the front side of my radiator and it is a pusher now.
It works Great and fit in the space with only little mods done.
This is on a B body though.

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wonder how the fit would be with a drop in WP unit....


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How many amps does it draw?
I like the built in fan shround to the radiator edges.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 440Jim] #437003
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How many amps does it draw?
I like the built in fan shround to the radiator edges.




I will look through my notes as I know I checked it and if not, I will tomorrow after work. The thing moves a ton of air and is so quiet.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437004
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Has anyone used one on the aluminum downflow radiators? I am curious as to how they fit!?!

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: RonP] #437005
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How many amps does it draw?
I like the built in fan shround to the radiator edges.




I will look through my notes as I know I checked it and if not, I will tomorrow after work. The thing moves a ton of air and is so quiet.




I hope my stock style alt. will be enough


the only other thing it runs is my 7 amp fuel pump

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437006
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I'm watching this with great interest.

I only have about 2 5/8" between my rad, and my MECHANICAL waterpump.

Anyone fit one in an A-body with a mechanical wp?


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: RonP] #437007
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I love mine also.

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: ProSport] #437008
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looks like you moved the rad forward a little ? how much ?
i have a stock style water pump also Codfish.....


Im gonna make this damn thing fit........yes i broke out the credit card tonight and ordered...... $60.75 to my door

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How many cfm of air does that thing flow.... 493dart where did you order yours from.. thx


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: moparniac] #437010
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I have one on my 94 and love it. Cools in the Hot Houston Summer Heat! And it is pretty quiet too!

I got mine from Rock Auto (online) for about $55 shipped.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: moparniac] #437011
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How many cfm of air does that thing flow.... 493dart where did you order yours from.. thx




i heard 3000 at least .

rockauto.com $60 shipped

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437012
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A word to the wise, i was given by a member here. With anything close to a stock charging system , the HHR fan will flat eat up a battery in a mighty short time.
A guy told me he had a 50 amp denso on his car and with that fan, ran out of juice on a sortie on the street one night because of how much juice that HHR eats. That is the only reason i dont currently have one, and just bought a much lower amP draw new fan for my car....aa i have a stock alt, not even as good as his Denso that didnt cut the mustard.
Your results may vary


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i was thinking that... however i only run a 7 amp pump , never street drive with the lights on anymore.


any ALT recommendations ? oem junkyard preffered ....

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A word to the wise, i was given by a member here. With anything close to a stock charging system , the HHR fan will flat eat up a battery in a mighty short time.
A guy told me he had a 50 amp denso on his car and with that fan, ran out of juice on a sortie on the street one night because of how much juice that HHR eats. That is the only reason i dont currently have one, and just bought a much lower amP draw new fan for my car....aa i have a stock alt, not even as good as his Denso that didnt cut the mustard.
Your results may vary




I don't have a stock alt, but I am going to measure the draw tonight when I get off work. if I remember correctly it drew way less power than most previous fans I have had. Also, since the swap I have noticed zero difference in battery charging or anything electrical related. as mentioned though, like everything on here, your results may vary.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: RonP] #437015
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How many amps does it draw?
I like the built in fan shround to the radiator edges.



It pulls about 30 amps at startup and 13 amps running

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Here is a picture of the fan on a 69 gtx

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one more I have about 1/4 inch space between fan and pump 80 amp alternator 60 amp at idle

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: RonP] #437018
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I would like to know the amp draw also because I don't notice a big drain on the battery, but I also have a fairly big amp alt stock from the factory.

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I would like to know the amp draw also because I don't notice a big drain on the battery, but I also have a fairly big amp alt stock from the factory.




I think my factory alt is about 37 amps peak, so 30+ amps on startup would create problems for me. the fan i bought draws 7.5 max


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No pictures but this fan is by far the best I have ever seen. I have looked at about every OEM style fan out there. We had to cut the lip off the rad support to move the rad a 1/4" forward so the fan would clear the snout on the mech water pump.

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How thick is your radiator? and are you using a front plate... that brings my water pump snout another 3/8" farther forwards
thanks
Charles

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I would like to know the amp draw also because I don't notice a big drain on the battery, but I also have a fairly big amp alt stock from the factory.











I think my factory alt is about 37 amps peak, so 30+ amps on startup would create problems for me. the fan i bought draws 7.5 max





30+ Amps on Startup??

The poster said About 30 Amps on startup, meaning Less. So with your 37 amp peak alt., You would have more then enough power to run the mizer/Hiflow HHR fan. mike

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How thick is your radiator? and are you using a front plate... that brings my water pump snout another 3/8" farther forwards
thanks
Charles




Its the summit 26in Rad. I want to say its 2 1/2" thick but not sure and cant measure at this moment.

As close as ours is I dont know if it will clear with a plate. But I do believe ProSport is running one but that is with a big block.

The HHR fan has small cooling fins on the back of the motor that could be shaved off and that would give it a little bit more.

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what is that out of.... what gpm pump is that....

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"What is that out of",,,, ??
the fan ?, pump ?,,,
this is a HHR fan,,in my 65 plymouth,( not a A body,,just saw the title , )with a Meizere pump ( i listed the specs on the pump below )
very pleased with the set up,,,lots of clearance,,and the car runs nice and cool....


Doug



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Is the Meziere water pump shorter than the mechanical pump?

There does seem to be plenty of room in B-bodies and other, it's only the A-bodies that need every last 1/4 inch

-Charles

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I would like to know the amp draw also because I don't notice a big drain on the battery, but I also have a fairly big amp alt stock from the factory.











I think my factory alt is about 37 amps peak, so 30+ amps on startup would create problems for me. the fan i bought draws 7.5 max





30+ Amps on Startup??

The poster said About 30 Amps on startup, meaning Less. So with your 37 amp peak alt., You would have more then enough power to run the mizer/Hiflow HHR fan. mike




I have an electric water pump, msd, electric fan,fuel pump, starter, etc, it definately wouldnt work for me. And understand that a 37 amp(max) output alternator isnt putting out that much juice constantly, i dont think, that is just peak.
Like i said earlier, a guy on here has a 50 amp denso and had to take the HHR fan off because his charging system couldnt support it. that was enough to sway me, as i dont have nearly as much alternator as he did, and even he had problems.


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I think my factory alt is about 37 amps peak, so 30+ amps on startup would create problems for me. the fan i bought draws 7.5 max




If your battery can't handle starting the fan I don't think you'd ever get your engine started.


Thanks for the tread, it reminded me I want to buy one for my '68 Barracuda

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I have the fan on the front side of my radiator and it is a pusher now.
It works Great and fit in the space with only little mods done.
This is on a B body though.




Ok this was posted a couple days ago, I PMed him to as if reversing the polarity reversed rotation, I haven't gotten a response back so could someone else with one of these fans tell me if reversing the leads reverses the fan rotation? Thanks!!

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I know this post is about the hhr fan. But here is a pick of my big block abody. i am useing a 27.5x19 inch 2 core summit rad. a summit/cvr electric water pump and a fan that was made for a 98 ford turs(spelling). which for my car worked better than the hhr because the one i am useing the motor is off set.I could of made the hhr fan work on my car. but for me it was easer to use the ford one. sorry not trying to high jack the post just letting you guys know there might be a nother opption out there. all so my car temp has not gotton over 180 degrees yet on to back to back passes. thanks Mopar65


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Mopar65 - thanks . I had no idea the motor is offset on the Taurus fan .

what is the distance from the Rad fins and the edge of the factory water pump housing ? did you move the rad ?




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Ford taurus fan is 4.85 thick pulls about 30-35 amps on low about 50 amps on high

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Am I the only one who mounted my rad in front of the core support?



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Am I the only one who mounted my rad in front of the core support?




Maybe

Do you have any pics of that area? How big a radiator? What did you have to cut or remove to get it in there?

thanks
-Charles

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I'll take soome pics tomorrow. One thing is you need a glass hood because i did remove the latch.


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I suspected as much, given the location of the latch mechanism!

wouldn't it be possible to keep the steel hood and use pins or other hold-down mechanism?

-Charles

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Ok......
got my fan today .
Ive taken all the extra plastic off it i can to gain clearance.

It does fit , but theres maybe 1/4" from the fan motor to the 4 water pump pulley bolt heads. It fits nice and flush to the rad though .

Im moving it forward.

SO-- how did you guys fasten the fan to the rad , and the rad to the body (after cutting ) ?

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437042
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That 1/4" clearance is with your radiator in the stock position (no cutting of the core support)? hmmm won't work so good with a 3/8" motor plate...

Wonder what it would cost to have 3/8" milled off my WP housing to compensate for it?

I'd definitely like to see pics though

-Charles

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: DrCharles] #437043
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That 1/4" clearance is with your radiator in the stock position (no cutting of the core support)? hmmm won't work so good with a 3/8" motor plate...

Wonder what it would cost to have 3/8" milled off my WP housing to compensate for it?

I'd definitely like to see pics though

-Charles





Here's where I'm at as of tonight---

I cut some of the rad support out and set the rad/fan in there . Now Ive got around 3/4" clearance - looks pretty good in there now

Im going to start making brackets tomorrow night , should have it all done some time Thursday - I will definitely post some pics .

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437044
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That 1/4" clearance is with your radiator in the stock position (no cutting of the core support)? hmmm won't work so good with a 3/8" motor plate...

Wonder what it would cost to have 3/8" milled off my WP housing to compensate for it?

I'd definitely like to see pics though

-Charles





Here's where I'm at as of tonight---

I cut some of the rad support out and set the rad/fan in there . Now Ive got around 3/4" clearance - looks pretty good in there now

Im going to start making brackets tomorrow night , should have it all done some time Thursday - I will definitely post some pics .



please post pics.. Im thinking im gonna do this with my 71 Dart


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: moparniac] #437045
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I am also thinking of using that fan and would like to see pics, but it sounds like you cannot leave the radiator in the stock position?


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 65signet] #437046
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I am also thinking of using that fan and would like to see pics, but it sounds like you cannot leave the radiator in the stock position?




You "could" ...

but you would have to either
1. run an electric pump
2. use some shallow head bolts for the pulley (kinda like converter bolts) ?

it would still be close ....

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437047
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I moved mine forward and also fitted a larger 31" rad at the same time.
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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: deaks] #437048
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All done-- works great -- have at least 3/4 to 7/8" clearance










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How deep is the HHR fan.


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: deaks] #437050
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How did you move the radiator forward did you cut the support?


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You have to trim the top edge and the sides to let the rad into the panel so that the rad sits tight to the upright of the front panel.
Here's a pic of one that's done

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 65signet] #437052
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i cut the support . gained 7/8" .

HHR fan is 3 1/2" thick after trimming --around 4 1/4" un-trimmed

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hey deaks--whats the brand / part # on your Lower rad hose ?

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437054
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Sorry, that's not mine it's a guy over here, i've got the one with the spring inside and it works a treat.
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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: deaks] #437055
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ok heres a few questions on the topic that i didnt see before.

1. All of this appears to be done with big block abody's and the mods to make it fit seem to be minimal. Based off this, there shouldnt be any clearance issues with a SMALL-block abody?

2. As to the post of the battery dying out due to a high draw even with the denso alt, most of you don't seem to be having an issue with this. However, how many of you run your car on the street which is where these issues seem to take place at?

The reason for the second question is cause this car will see more of the street than it does the strip where as your cars seem to see more of the strip than the street?

Thanks ahead of time you guys

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: DemonKyle] #437056
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ok heres a few questions on the topic that i didnt see before.

1. All of this appears to be done with big block abody's and the mods to make it fit seem to be minimal. Based off this, there shouldnt be any clearance issues with a SMALL-block abody?

2. As to the post of the battery dying out due to a high draw even with the denso alt, most of you don't seem to be having an issue with this. However, how many of you run your car on the street which is where these issues seem to take place at?

The reason for the second question is cause this car will see more of the street than it does the strip where as your cars seem to see more of the strip than the street?

Thanks ahead of time you guys




I would like to hear more also Thanks


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 65signet] #437057
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I think the street driving will be better to be honest. I run mine on the street some and the battery holds up great. I think it is worse at the track when you only make a pass and then you run the fan/wp while cooling without the engine running.

I say with a good charging system you would be well off. Guess I could be wrong though.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: RonP] #437058
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I have a factory alternator , raced all night and i ran all my lights . No problems .


Didnt have to run the fan between rounds because it worked so good while it was running


I realize driving around for a few hours on the street might be different

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437059
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I have a question too.

With the trimming you did, on the shroud, how close are the fans blades to the rad?

thanks alot
codfish

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around 1/2 "





Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: gtx69] #437061
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one more I have about 1/4 inch space between fan and pump 80 amp alternator 60 amp at idle


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: DemonKyle] #437062
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1. All of this appears to be done with big block abody's and the mods to make it fit seem to be minimal. Based off this, there shouldnt be any clearance issues with a SMALL-block abody?





We just put one on my Duster a couple days ago. I have a stock 22" 2 core radiator. We trimmed 1/2" off the face of the shroud, after that it slid right into place on the upper and lower tank flanges. We also had to trim off the plastic cover on the back of the fan motor, which seems to be there to make it look prettier. We could have cut off more from the shroud front face. The fan is just shy of an inch from the radiator.

Here my husband welded 1 1/2 angle tabs on the factory mount brackets:








Here is the HHR fan on the radiator, he drilled holes through the fan mounts and angle brackets, then added bolts.


that's not my sexy hand in there.

Couple observations:

1. Our Dart had 3/4" more room than my Duster between the water pump and radiator. Uses the same stock radiator. This fan will fit a small block Dart better.
2. Radiator mount brackets are not all the same. The Dart's radiator sat closer to the core support than the Dusters did.

This fan is a $59 shipped with discount code from Rock Auto off a 2006 Chevy HHR.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: dustergirl340] #437063
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Thanks for the nice pics and it looks like that fan was made for an a-body.

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Here are some HHR fan dimensions I found.

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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 69MOPE] #437065
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Here are some HHR fan dimensions I found.





i think i mentioned it but, i trimmed mine down to 3.5"

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: dustergirl340] #437066
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dustergirl, thats probably exactly what I'm looking for. Keep an open eye. Ill probably be sending you a message on here or myspace to find out some more details.

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: DemonKyle] #437067
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Those are good pics of the install, anybody try this on a early A


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Because my rad was bigger than the fan/shroud and I had to offset it to the passenger side (to clear the water pump), I used the factory mounting locations on the driver's side, the one hole on the upper pass side and just drilled another hole in the lower pass side (as indicated by the red marks) and used those "push zip ties" for fans, etc.

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Well, to keep this post current, I just ordered the HHR fan from Rock Auto too. AND I'm waiting on some dimension info from Griffin pertaining to one of their "Pro series" rads I saw on Summit.

Reason??

After this pass



Went back to the pits, and noticed coolant running down under the rad support. Loaded it up, and went home.
Made it to the semis too .

Took the fan out today, and saw this. Somehow, the fan decided to bury itself into the rad , opening up 5 or 6 tubes, and making the rest VERY thin. Rad is junk. The Zirgo fan won't be used again either. Don't know why it happened, but when I lay the fan on the workbench, the blades touch the bench before the "shroud". Like the shroud warped or something. IDK .
Probably cheaper to buy another rad than getting this one fixed.

Anyhow, the summit rad is 2.25" think at the core, and 3.5 ish at the tank. Griffin has a 2 row, with 1" tubes which is 2" think at the core. I'm waiting to see how thick the tanks are. If they're thinner than the summit rad, it MAY enable me to fit the rad and fan without trimming the core support .



codfish

ps where's the throwing money smilie

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: codfish] #437070
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my griffen radiator lasted about 2 years beofre the epoxy the seals the tank to the tubes started leaking. i wont run another griffen radiator because of it. i like the summit radiator were they are welded instead of epoxy.

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Actually that's another question I asked. I had an epoxied griffin before too, and it leaked just as the warranty expired. i know not all griffins are epoxied.

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I just installed one in my Dart . Man that is close. I have a CSR water pump and an alumimen rad . I had to move it over to the drivers side about 2" to clear the pump. It is about 1/8" from the pump. It does pull alot of air . I did not have a chance to try it on the street.I raced all weekend the car barly went over 185 degrees.


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sorry if i missed this somewhere before but where are you getting these from and what price are they running? will they keep one cool on the street? like 170-175? i have a lincoln mark8 fan they pull 5000cfm of air but its to thick does a hhr fan pull air like that? thanks

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$55 from www.rockauto.com . Just look up a cooling fan for a 2007 chevy HHR. They supposedly pull 3000 or so cfm. Lots of guys here love them.

Do your self a favour and read this entire thread. Lots of good info shared.

codfish

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$181.00 with taxes at a GM dealer in Nova Scotia. What a rip off.


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Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: codfish] #437076
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Cod- i have the griffin thin radiator too . i can measure for you if you need it .



i raced all day saturday , the HHR kept it at 190 or less . I dont run the fan in the pits--just pull off the hood.

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Cod- i have the griffin thin radiator too . i can measure for you if you need it .








I'd appreciate that.

You have the part number by any chance? Just wondering if it's the same I am looking at. And are the tubes welded or epoxied to the tanks?

thanks
gary

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Anyone know of any other vehicles that use the same electrical plug to fit the HHR fan?

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Anyone know of any other vehicles that use the same electrical plug to fit the HHR fan?




I'd kinda like to know this myself since the GM dealer here can't find a connector available separately for the HHR unit.

Oh....and don't even think about ordering a new fan unit from a dealer up here....175.00 is about the going rate....rediculous compared to what you Yankee boys are paying.
My wife got mine thru her wrecking business for $80.00 including freight charges....yes, used, but in perfect condition.
Maybe try the salvage yards for a 2006-08 2.4litre one.

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Anyone know of any other vehicles that use the same electrical plug to fit the HHR fan?




Is it just two male spade connectors? I never thought about trying to order one of those.

codfish

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dont have the part # , mine is the epoxy version and is 1.25" thick , bought it thru Summit for around $170 .

the connector : snip it off

2 wires , hot and ground. Solder and shrink wrap = done

AND - this fan is not reversible . ( i tried it)

Re: another HHR fan question A Bodies ONLY [Re: 493_DART] #437082
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Well while my engine is out and sold I cut the core support WeDgIEsProFab

Picked up .75 in clearance......

I ordered the fan from rockauto also for $60 shipped...



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Why not just cut the wiring on the current connector and put in your own connector if you have a connector for both sides of the wiring......


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Why not just cut the wiring on the current connector and put in your own connector if you have a connector for both sides of the wiring......




There isn't much of a pigtail to work with coming of the fan motor. I also have easy access to a yard with a bunch of chevys, so why not snip one. One thing for sure, I don't want to wire it up directly without a detachable plug.

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Here are some HHR fan dimensions I found.





i think i mentioned it but, i trimmed mine down to 3.5"




where did you do the trimming at?


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The part # for the connector is 12101917....it fits a whole bunch of cars...20 pages worth on my catalog .




where are you referencing this from. thx

EDIT..... got it thx....

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Cross-references to GM PT-189 connector pigtail? That darn thing is $20.99 at O'Reilly and even more at Autozone
For a $60 fan
-Charles

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