Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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Stretch it out and roll it in. Like an accordian.
Define stretch it out... like open it up and make it a bigger circle?
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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08/11/09 07:27 PM
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It's called experience...... But generally, I start them out with bottom of wire lock & place it in the groove around 5 O'clock position, & work my way counterclockwise pressing it in with a large flat blade screw driver, mainly putting alot of downward pressure on the lock around the 12-1 O'clock position. Once you do a few, they are fairly easy. Everything I have made custom now has wire locks in it, as they are superior to a sprio-lock, hence why Cup engines have them in.
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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They are almost easier if you stretch it out like a coil spring, then almost thread it in, but dont thread it in forewards, thread in reverse works the best. im hopeing you are talking spiral locks?
i have gotten pretty decent at it with just my fingers..
OOOOOPS i didnt read far enough, i havent even seen wire locks.
sorry
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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Never personally used them but whatched a guy at PRI install and take them out. He was actually pushing the product over spiral locks. He didn't use a screwdriver. It may have been the same guys who make the spiral lock removal tool. I want to say he used something about the equivalent of a long wrist pin. And he just simply popped them in all at once. The removal tool had a few tricks to it and he wasn't going out of his way to explain how it worked. He did say that was the hard part of dealing with wire locks.
I think this guy is tied in with Precision Product in NC.
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!
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08/11/09 09:19 PM
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My engine builder has a tool for those and care is needed during the install.
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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They're strange little critters, you need to get one end in the groove then work it around. I had to do a bunch of deutz's with them. They tend to fly across the shop when not doing it right... Deutz called them "circlips".
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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Well I'm def doing it wrong lol... Several of them have flown around the garage. I haven't got one in yet as I'm waiting on a good explanation. Ryan I'll try your method and see if I can get it to work. A few of you guys are confused on I what I have. It's basicly .063 wire i believe made into a circle. I am not using spiro locks (the ones that look like a slinky when you pull them apart) Wish me luck guys, I may go back out tonight and try again.
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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Well my fingers are sore, but they are sore from trying to install, still didn't get any in at that point. I stepped back to give my fingers a rest, went to sears and believe it or not they had the tool to install wire locks!!!!! Got home and 70 mins later all the locks are in and rods are attached to pistons. I'll take a pic of the tool. My batteries are dead in my cam so I'll have to get some. Once I had this tool it was so easy. If I had this from the start my fingers wouldn't be sore now, and I wouldn't have had to search the garage for wire locks Thanks for all the help
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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YES! Show a picture! I will be needing one of those tools soon and there is a Sears nearby.
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!
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If you ever want to change out the pistons, how are the snap rings removed?
In the close up pic of the piston you can see a little pocket around the 4 o clock position. You can fit a very small screw driver in there and pop the ring very easily out. I tried it and it was no problem.
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!
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Re: Engine Builders...I'm ready to pull my hair out!!!!
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08/13/09 03:03 PM
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Every two stroke motor I have built has circlips in them, fun little devils aren't they.even more fun when you drop one down in the crankcase . the tool to install them are great but I just use a screw driver, been doing it since I was 12 when I had to replace a piston in my old Moto-Ski,Snowmobile for you warm weather guys. To remove them just use a pic, most pistons have a notch where you can get behind the circlip and pop it out, wear saftey glasses when doing this or you'll shoot your eye out!!!!
You'll have plenty of time to sleep when your dead, let's go
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