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Anyone dropped a powerglide into an E-body behind a small block? If so what kind of problems did you run into? Clearance etc.?


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Re: Powerglide in small block E body? [Re: Irun5snd8th] #434770
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Anyone dropped a powerglide into an E-body behind a small block? If so what kind of problems did you run into? Clearance etc.?




I havent BUT what is the weight of the car... I would
believe it would really hurt the 60' and maybe
down track if its in a heavy car. I have a glide
for my BB thats going into my car but it wont be
in it for some time yet

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There is a guy I race with around here with a very pretty '72 Challenger that weighs around 2800lbs. Big block car on a small tire that runs 6.40's in the 1/8th. He didn't mention any fitment problems. I think he picked up a little bit but he was under tired and was spinning with the 727.


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I have a Howards alum. glide with a J.W ultrabell setup on it for the last three years. no issues at all. I could forsee a tight fit with the ultrabell if you retain your stock trans tunnel and a blanket setup.
I'm just in the process of finishing a full rollered 904 to put into my car{70-cuda /32.5x16x15/4.86/59* w-9 / Rons toilet setup and now has 5.67 gear and does 6.04@113 with a 1.32 60' My sons runs a 48* w-9 all steel car{ 72 cuda} with his 904 for the last 4 years and never any problems he does 6.20@111 in the 660' If I had to start from scratch it would definately be a 904 and leave the glide to the bow tie babies
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Re: Powerglide in small block E body? [Re: sleepyhead416] #434775
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Lets leave the quick ET stuff out of this one. I have several reasons I am thinking about this. I have been 1.28 60fts with my ride as it sits with a 904 in it. So obviously it would 60 ft slower in my car. Is the ultrabell the way to go on this deal or is there a better method for attaching?


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Re: Powerglide in small block E body? [Re: Irun5snd8th] #434776
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Go with the ultrabell, buy the wheel and adapter also. I'm sure you know the benifits of the glide.

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Re: Powerglide in small block E body? [Re: Irun5snd8th] #434778
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I don't think that the ultra bell is any larger than the 727 bell and we know that it will fit. If I were buying new I would consider the ATI case/bell. I do run JW bells, but had problems with their "wheel". This was with 850Hp though. Run a Reactor alum wheel now.


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Buy the aftermarket case if you can swing it. No shield necessary. Could not fit shield in Cuda tunnel. Also if using PPP shifter, shift arm or floor needs modified. Ultrabell fits fine w/ BB. Mount sits 4 or 5 inches forward of crossmember in car.

Good Luck

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Buy the aftermarket case if you can swing it. No shield necessary. Could not fit shield in Cuda tunnel. Also if using PPP shifter, shift arm or floor needs modified. Ultrabell fits fine w/ BB. Mount sits 4 or 5 inches forward of crossmember in car.

Good Luck

Gotta deal on PG stuff if anyone interested.





what kind of pg parts?

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This is all great info. Didn't realize that ATI had a bell. PM me about those parts.


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Re: Powerglide in small block E body? [Re: Irun5snd8th] #434782
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I'm running Ultra-bell, JW Ultra-case, the Mizier billet flexplate and JW adapter. No clearance issues at all, plenty of room in the tunnel.

Not sure why it would matter if it was a small or big block, if anything the SB should have more room.

Just had to modify the rear tranny mount that it wasn't any big deal.

It does leave a little softer but if your bracket racing it doesn't matter, I'd just assume loose a little ET for the consistency and since it leaves a little softer you'll have less problems at marginal tracks.


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Do yourself a favor and go with the Reid case if you go glide. I will probably do this next year in my a-body.

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What is a Reid case? I know Deadenbear makes one but that puppy is expensive.


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Nevermind! The Reid looks identical to the Dedenbear so must be a partner/rebrand thing. Wade, obviously I have a driveshaft swap to do as well but what else do I need that hasn't been mentioned? I am pretty sure I can get a different plate for my Turbo Action shifter to work with the glide.


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This is all great info. Didn't realize that ATI had a bell. PM me about those parts.



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Nothing wrong with using stock glide cases, even stock 1.76 gear sets. You wont have any strength issue's.
A few parts in those tranny's are need to be replaced, but after this you will have a strong transmission.
I have personally put pass after pass on a stock glide with stock 1.76 gears. Built by yours truely, turning 1.07 60ft times
A few things that need changed.
-300M input shaft
-aftermarket clutch hubs that holds more clutches
-billet servo piston-Kevlar bands
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-aftermarket valve body
-deep pan
-pump mods
-case mods

If your not chasing E/T in a class, lots of people don't care to give up a little E/T for consistency.
E/T loss could be substantial, maybe a tenth or more. Then again it might not be near that much with the right converter.
I want to add that converter choice is a little more crucial in a glide, so ask around and get some recommendations.


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If I do this my converter will be an ATI and I will be sending an ATI core to them and tell them my specs to have one built.


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Did you know that Jerry Meny runs a pg? He had some issues with starter rings comming apart, almost sawed the frame into.

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Do you know what kit or adapter that Jerry was using?
One thing that I am taking into consideration is using the Coan adapter kit and using an actual Powerglide without a Bell. This for the simple fact that there are always spare glides laying around in my buddies shops and trailers for that matter.


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JW bell here, in a big block A body though. Stock case with Bruno's shield on the trans, fits tighter spots than most shields, and bolts to the pan not a sheet metal strap under the pan. I cut the glide bell housing off in my garage with a sawsall and a die grinder. No issues here with the JW bell. There are a lot of choices for a glide. Stay away from helical aftermarket gear sets, the stock 1.76 is the budget way to go, if you ever upgrade don't consider anything but a straight cut set.

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I don't think that the ultra bell is any larger than the 727 bell and we know that it will fit. If I were buying new I would consider the ATI case/bell. I do run JW bells, but had problems with their "wheel". This was with 850Hp though. Run a Reactor alum wheel now.




I will be running a JW Glide with "The Wheel " what kind of problems will I be encountering ?

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I don't think you will have any problems. I first adapted my PG with a TCI adapter plate. Used it for years but when I took it apart the flexplate was broken between each mounting bolt. It came apart when I took it off. I then bought a bell and cut the PG bellhousing off and bought a wheel. Worked excellent, no problem that I can recall. My next step was to go with a complete JW cased trans. Bought it with a wheel and a SFI deep pan. No blanket or flexshield required. I subquently bought one of the JW rollerized tailhousings. Again, I've had no problem, had to space out the starter but JW provides shims for that. All this went into a 68 Barracuda, I wouldn't go any other way. However if starting over at this time I would look at some of the other SFI cases out there.

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I don't think that the ultra bell is any larger than the 727 bell and we know that it will fit. If I were buying new I would consider the ATI case/bell. I do run JW bells, but had problems with their "wheel". This was with 850Hp though. Run a Reactor alum wheel now.




I will be running a JW Glide with "The Wheel " what kind of problems will I be encountering ?


I had one loose a section of ring gear and broke the ultra bell, ripped through the headers and poked a hole in the oil pan. Diaper on the engine saved the car. I took it out and it was cracked at every weld.


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Any more info? This has been a great thread for learning.


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