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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: mark7171]
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06/10/07 06:11 PM
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yes but, your stories contradict my expirience. the manifolds do not produce correct velocities at reasonable street rpms. if your using hi 4000 stalls or 5 series ring gears, i dont associate those with streetable components. your combination tells me enough of whats going on.
again you cannot drive around at 4000 rpms all tunnel ram and headers. the cops will pull you over.
Let's try this again- FIRST... who is "driving around at 4000 rpm"?
My truck was driven daily, nobody would have POSSIBLY known there was a 2x4bbl tunnel ram on it if they never popped the hood.
I never had 4000rpm stall converters in ANY of my vehicles with tunnel rams. My truck was a STOCK converter. It pulled out of the hole like crazy. It was HEAVY too.
My work truck- tunnel ram, two four barrel carbs, and headers.
I ran all sorts of gears in most of my cars, I had 5.13 gears in my Demon at one point, but I drove it on the highway. The tires were 33" tall.
My Coupe I am building now has 33" tall tires and 4.10 gears. It will be VERY highway friendly.
It's all about the package IMO?
I have never been pulled over because of a tunnel ram, never had any cop mention anything about my tunnel rams. Maybe it's where you live, but where I live the cops could care less.
I had an Australian visitor who said I couldn't drive through town in a tubbed car without being in big trouble. I drove tubbed cars for decades and decades where I live. Nobody cares.
What experience do you have with a tunnel ram? Engine specs, vehicle, carbs etc? Tell us what you ran?
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
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06/10/07 06:23 PM
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Thanks everybody! I was planning on puting it on an eddy headed 440 with a nice solid cam. I haven't planned the engine out yet so I have no specs. I do plan on using a vaccuum pump for my brakes. It's not going to be a daily driver and will probably see 500 miles a year. I just feel the need to have a Mr.Gasket scoop popping otta my hood. As for street legal, I believe if the DMV is dumb enough to give me a license plate then it's streetable. Thanks again all! 
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: draginmopars]
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06/10/07 06:23 PM
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All I know is from my experience. My 528 Hemi is running around with 4:10 gears,(until I get a 4:56 dana). 31" tires. I've got a Weiand Tunnelram with 2 modified 750 eddies, with ram air box and filter all UNDER the hood. The cam is 272/274@.050, 5000~stall convertor. The carbs are tuned with an LM-1 meter and it starts, idles, runs beautiful in stop-in-go traffic, will smoke the tires from a 50 mph roll,or completely shread them at lower speeds. Throttle response is as good as any single or duel plane I've ever run. It also got 10mpg the last time I went to cruise nite, 100+miles round trip. It also pulls and pulls and pulls, at 7000rpm it's still pressing you back in the seat with no end in sight. Dave 
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: quickd100]
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06/10/07 06:31 PM
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All I know is from my experience. My 528 Hemi is running around with 4:10 gears,(until I get a 4:56 dana). 31" tires. I've got a Weiand Tunnelram with 2 modified 750 eddies, with ram air box and filter all UNDER the hood. The cam is 272/274@.050, 5000~stall convertor. The carbs are tuned with an LM-1 meter and it starts, idles, runs beautiful in stop-in-go traffic, will smoke the tires from a 50 mph roll,or completely shread them at lower speeds. Throttle response is as good as any single or duel plane I've ever run. It also got 10mpg the last time I went to cruise nite, 100+miles round trip. It also pulls and pulls and pulls, at 7000rpm it's still pressing you back in the seat with no end in sight. Dave
And if I was in a single 4bbl well built CAR, I would be hesitant to pull beside you....
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: mark7171]
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06/10/07 07:35 PM
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yes but, your stories contradict my expirience. the manifolds do not produce correct velocities at reasonable street rpms. if your using hi 4000 stalls or 5 series ring gears, i dont associate those with streetable components. your combination tells me enough of whats going on.
again you cannot drive around at 4000 rpms all tunnel ram and headers. the cops will pull you over.
When i said 4100 "flash" stall, thats what i ment, it would foot brake to 2000 before busting the tires loose, theres a BIG difference between flash stall & foot brake stall, if you ever ran a GOOD quality converter, you would no this, i ran all over the place with a 4000 unit.
If you would stop listening to the CHEBBY guys & listen when we say "THEY WORK" on mopars, i'm not saying to put a TR with 2 750 DPers on a 8.1 318 with a stock converter & 2.76 gears, you wouldn't be too happy 
But a mild to moderately built SB or BB with 4.11s & a nice street converter, put on the right carbs & your set.
I put mine together with 2 swap meet 1850-2s that i paid 15.00 a piece for, hooked up the fuels lines, the car was sitting for 3 weeks, i put (3) 1/2 throttle pumps & it fired right up & idled at 1000 rpm, i was  to say the least, throttle responce was un-frigin-real, when i drove it around, i was at all the guys that told me it would be a big mistake.
TRs were the hot ticket back when i was a kid, they worked then (on the street from stop light to stop light) & they work today, there just making a big comeback, have i said enough , i'll shut up now 
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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06/10/07 08:20 PM
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to all you people with these opinions..... HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY RAN A TUNNEL RAM ON THE STREET??? if you answered NO.... then butt out! your opinions are not really backed up with anything other then wives tales and crap! I run a eddy street ram and LOVE IT! I HAVE 3.23's - I take the car 2.5 hours to carlisle and dont even think about if the tunnel ram will make it or not... I GET 16 mpg'S - WITH A TUNNEL RAM a 360 with 2-holley 390's and a dynamic 3800 stall converter that was built for my setup. 3.23's with a 26" tall tire will get me down the quarter in 12.56 seconds at 106 mph with a 1,74 6o' time.... with stock 1.88 intake valve heads... i have been waiting for this low end problem and i didnt even have it with the mopar 2500 ( 175k ) cheapo converter i had in before... it was never there... I have a hilborn scoop and run a shower cap in the rain. thats it... I'll drive it anywhere anytime and sit in traffic with it too.... so bring on your misconceptions and put your money where your mouth is... fact of the matter is my car would not be nearly as fast without the t-ram... plain and simple and pulling more MPG's then my 01 dakota r/t is saying something too,,, but it must not be streetable.....for some people...all of this on a stock rebuilt 360 with some kb flattops in it...lol here i am getting caught in a rain storm on the way to carlisle...  the unstreetable top end.....  tunnel ram+3.23's+ slicks = BOG??/ no it ='s a 1.74 60' time... 
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: DJVCuda]
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06/10/07 08:27 PM
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I didn't want to mention the decent gas mileage part, I thought I would be thrown to the wolves. LOL I'm thinking mike7171- are you thinking a 4000rpm stall converter won't move the car until 4000 rpms, or?  My 3200 rpm converter in my Demon felt much like a stock converter unless the pedal was pounded.
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: DJVCuda]
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06/10/07 08:34 PM
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Yeah, me too, but what do you do? Mine were all driven hard on a daily basis. I don't know where the "overheating" stuff comes from, not a clue???? I would say take a good look at your combo, your numbers, and your opinion. Seems like you've sorted it out pretty danged well....
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: DJVCuda]
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06/10/07 08:40 PM
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if you answered NO.... then butt out! your opinions are not really backed up with anything other then wives tales and crap!
its the same as the clowns that go around telling everyone that a big block A-Body won't handle at all.. and how they are only good for striaght lines... or the clowns that said for years that a big block doesn't fit into an early a-body....
don't worry about it guys.. you know what you have and how it runs. if they don't want to believe it then the heck with them. they are the ones missing out....
It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt. www.MoparMisfits.com
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: DJVCuda]
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06/10/07 09:01 PM
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i have been replying to these posts for years, and they bug me....
i'll bolt on a dual plane and I bet my car will be slower...
a 3430 lb car with 3.23's and stock smal valve heads in the mid 12's?? nope....
DJVCuda, your advise has not been waisted. I just got back from putting 390s on my brothers 340 Swinger with M1 T ram and it runs GREAT !!! We got a pair of rebuilt, but zink ? coated(better than new), 390s from a carb shop on Long Island (ebay). The car has sat for the last few yrs because after cutting and repainting the hood and getting it all set up for the T ram it ran like hell with 450s on it, and my brother lost interest. Now after bolting on these carbs and a little tweeking it runs smoother than it did with a single 625 carter and LD340 intake. We will be getting it all cleaned up and driving it 3 1/2 hours to Carlisle next month. THANK YOU VERY MUCH , you were on the money with your advise
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: B1duster]
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06/10/07 10:52 PM
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Love my M1 TR w/850's. Throttle response is instantaneous. My setup is not "practical", it is obnoxious and I love it. Haven't got the milage thing worked out yet but I am getting there, need an LM1. Works great on the street, cruise around at 2500rpm, stab the throttle and it goes to 4500 instantly and all heck breaks loose. Works great puttin around the farm also lol. Try it, you will like it!  
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
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06/11/07 08:22 AM
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I run a .030 over 440 with 10 to 1 flattops, pocket ported heads with .509/312 (advertised) cam, headers, 4-speed, 3.55 gears and two 500 cfm Edelbrocks. Very streetable, lots of low end grunt, no problems at all. I have run the Woodward Dream Cruise numerous times and other than my clutch leg getting tired, it was no problem at all. Granted, with the cam it still lopes up to 50 mph and the mileage is not great at 10 mpg (babying it). But, I wouldn't hesitate to tunnel ram and two small fours on a big block. If you were running a 727, you would need loose converter or a much less radical cam.
I have also run a 340 with the same basic setup and it wasn't any fun at all! Not enough torque, a bit like a two-stroke dirt bike. It was either "on the pipe" or not.
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
[Re: dberlien]
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06/11/07 09:11 AM
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I do believe lots of people tried to utilize USED holley carbs that were warped and "fiddled" to death. Always good to go new with the 2 carbs unless you KNOW the carbs are good. Lots of guys running 2 double pumpers on an 8 to 1 small block ect ect  . Seems the big block mopar is fine with tunnel rams on the street but big block chevies are very sluggish down low.
Keep old mopars alive.
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