Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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I've heard a few rumors (all word of mouth, nothing ever in writing) about the possibility of taking a 5 spd out of a dakota and having it "bolt right up" to an old mopar small block.
Is there any truth to these rumors?
And if so, what changes/modifications are necessary (as I'm sure that everyone's opinion of "bolts right up" are different)?
I have a 68 Barracuda Fastback with a 318 that I'd like to take off the column and put on the floor. I also have a 97 Dakota V6 Sport with a 5 speed that I have been told "should" work. I just want to make sure before I start cutting anything up.
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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I checked this out once. That tranny is too tall to go into an A body. Tunnel will need extensive mods. Almost looks like you would have to cut the dash. It's been several years since I looked at that.
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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Just get a new 4 speed w/ O/D 4th. Plus a 5 speed for a V8 is going to cost $$$$ 6-800 for a used unit
When they are here in the JY you can get them for less than $100
a V8 5 speed for a 5.2 dakota?? $100 not a chance. V6 maybe. I think the Ram 1500 V8's use a different 5 speed. I called all up and down the east coast.
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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When they are here in the JY you can get them for less than $100
a V8 5 speed for a 5.2 dakota?? $100 not a chance. V6 maybe. I think the Ram 1500 V8's use a different 5 speed. I called all up and down the east coast.
Well you guys need Pull-a-Part. They don't care what type of tranny. It is the same price.
Dana 60 is the same price as a 7 1/4.
Bad thing is runable carbs cost the same as rusted up frozen parts carbs.
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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First of all, thanks for all the help. Quote:
Everything is here..http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12056
On there it says:
"#5. 94-99 Dakota 3.9L V6 Bellhousing: Connects all to any 3.9L V6 and any 273/318/340/360 V8, Magnum 5.2\5.9 V8, 3.7L V6, 4.7L V8, 5.7L Hemi V8, and Jeep 2.8L CRD Turbo Diesel. (Requires use of an 11" flywheel.)"
So it's saying that the bellhousing will bolt up to the 318...
But although I'm willing to cut up the car a little bit, I don't want to butcher it just to get the transmission to fit.
The main reason that I was looking into this swap was because I already have the 5 speed and wouldn't have to go buy a different one plus all the linkages, bellhousing, etc... Plus the 5 spd in my dakota has seemed pretty bulletproof so far (I just got done towing a 68 sport fury and a 68 four door fury, though not at the same time, with it, and it's got 200k miles so far and I'm still on the original clutch).
I'd definitely like an extra gear and/or Overdrive, as I drive the barracuda quite a bit (in fact, it's first trip was driven from Southern California to Pittsburgh). If the Dakota transmission won't work, what other ones should I look for that can be had for cheap? I had assumed that the hydraulic clutch in the dakota 5 spd would simplify the need for modifying the linkages...
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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08/05/09 11:43 AM
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an A/F body A833 OD will be your most economical swap. all others will involve some modification of the t-bar crossmember and floorpan.
what year is your dakota?
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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What about an A535 from an earlier Dakota? Might be easier to find???
Parts I seek:
driver doorpanel, 65 Sport Fury, prefer black, needs to be 7-8 on 10 scale, might buy set
16" x 6" Dodge truck wheel(s), from early 70s?, takes 9" dogdish - need for a research job so cheaper is better.
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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Most of the newer 5-speed transmissions are physically larger than the A-833's which were designed to fit into the A-body, so space alone is a major concern. You wonn't save any time nor money on any manual trans install versus installing an A-833. With an A-833, everything is a bolt on, and it's going to fit, guaranteed. No fabrication, no need to find a '86-'89 V8 Dakota-only slave cylinder, run new hydraulic lines, and so on. Saving $400 on the trans will catch up with you once you try to start installing it. Being cheap costs you money once it's too late to turn back. 
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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Re: Dakota 5 Spd in an A Body
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if the bellhousing is integral to the tranny, it's a NVG3500. if it's not, it's an Aisin AX15, or maybe a NVG1500....'97 is in the cloudy area where they were switching things over and phasing out the Aisin tranny, IIRC.
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