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Clutch switch for a challenger #423440
07/29/09 10:49 PM
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Where can I find a switch for the clutch the one that is need to start the car and ties into the the starter switch. It is for a 1970

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: moparfar] #423441
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I don't have one for sale, but here a picture of what you need. Missing wire.

5384941-ClutchSwitch.jpg (662 downloads)
Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: Snoopy] #423442
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With wire.

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: Snoopy] #423443
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71 Clutch Safety Switch for comparison.

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: moparfar] #423444
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Where can I find a switch for the clutch the one that is need to start the car and ties into the the starter switch. It is for a 1970




They are scarce and pricey..
Check with Wayne @ Brewers he has some clutch switches.

http://www.brewersperformance.com

The other alternative is to just ground the starter relay terminal...

Just my $0.025...

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: Sinitro] #423445
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I lot of people don't like using the switch because it requires you to depress the clutch pedal in order to start the car. This places a load on the crankshaft main bearing thrust surface when there may be a lack of proper lubrication, causing excessive wear. I am not convinced, but I don't count.
One work around is to permanently ground the starter switch and make sure you have the car in neutral before starting. Keep the switch for appearance.
Personally I feel that if a person doesn't know enough to place the transmission in neutral before starting, then they shouldn't own a car with a manual transmission.

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: Snoopy] #423446
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Brewer's Performance has them.
Brewer's Performance Inc.
2560 South State Route 48
Ludlow Falls, Ohio 45339
Phone 937-698-4259
Fax 937-698-7109 24 hours
Hours 10 AM - 6 PM Monday-Friday
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Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: Snoopy] #423447
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I lot of people don't like using the switch because it requires you to depress the clutch peddle in order to start the car. This places a load on the crankshaft main bearing thrust surface when there may be a lack of proper lubrication, causing excessive wear. I am not convinced, but I don't count.
One work around is to permanently ground the starter switch and make sure you have the car in neutral before starting. Keep the switch for appearance.
Personally I feel that if a person doesn't know enough to place the transmission in neutral before starting, then they shouldn't own a car with a manual transmission.




I agree. It's also one more piece of maddening old electrical to fail which can leave you temporarily stranded.

On any of mine I have permanently grounded the relay, but have used a green wire with the correct grommets and connectors to keep the factory appearance. Only by looking under the dash at the clutch pedal would one be able to tell.

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: YYZ] #423448
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So if I understand this correctly, the wire at my switch is coming off I could just ground it under the dash somewhere and I would be OK to go? So I could leave the connector under the hood and the grommet through the firewall.


Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: gygeneral] #423449
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Yup.

You could actually ground it right at the relay if you wanted to...

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: YYZ] #423450
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Yup.

You could actually ground it right at the relay if you wanted to...




Thanks, good tip.

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: YYZ] #423451
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So basically you just remove the switch wire at the relay, and run a new lead from the relay to under the dash and ground it to the dash? (Green wire and grommet of course)...And that's it? No switch needed?

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: scatcity] #423452
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Or you could replace the starter relay with a pre 70 relay that had the ground tab soldered to the case.

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: scatcity] #423453
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So basically you just remove the switch wire at the relay, and run a new lead from the relay to under the dash and ground it to the dash? (Green wire and grommet of course)...And that's it? No switch needed?




Just make a 4" lead, 0.25" tab female terminal @ 1 end and terminal lug on the other. Slide the tab connector on the starter relay and ground the terminal lug under 1 of the starter relay's mounting screws..

Takes about 90 seconds..
Just my $0.025...

Re: Clutch switch for a challenger [Re: Sinitro] #423454
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Great info... I was unaware of this procedure.







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