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Re: The perfect stroke? [Re: 65signet] #385221
07/26/09 04:35 PM
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340 i think is the best, pound for pound stock 383 or 440 car would get beat by a 340 car.



The only diff between a 340 and a 383 is, you can put big heads on a 383 and make some serious horse power.
340s have little tiny bores.

Re: The perfect stroke? [Re: RemCharger] #385222
07/26/09 05:16 PM
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OK, so if you build a low deck 540 with 4.5 bore an 4.250 stroke and use CNC ported 440-1 heads with 382cfm flow at .800 and 345cc intake volume w/ right roller cam,

Or build a 557" with 4.5 bore and 4.375 stroke, same heads, choose proper cam, how much difference in the powerband between the 2 strokes?

Thoughts?

Arnie


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Re: The perfect stroke? [Re: cudabin] #385223
07/26/09 05:39 PM
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OK, so if you build a low deck 540 with 4.5 bore an 4.250 stroke and use CNC ported 440-1 heads with 382cfm flow at .800 and 345cc intake volume w/ right roller cam,

Or build a 557" with 4.5 bore and 4.375 stroke, same heads, choose proper cam, how much difference in the powerband between the 2 strokes?

Thoughts?

Arnie



I would guess at around 300-500rpm peak HP and TQ...maybe?
HP does not always go up with more cid...even if you use a larger cam to try to make up for the cid, the intake system and exhaust system will determine more or less just how much effect the difference in cid makes.
I wouldn't think it would be worth the extra $$$ for that .125 stroke going from a 470cid Arnie!


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Re: The perfect stroke? [Re: emarine01] #385224
07/26/09 06:02 PM
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I don`t know if it`s the best but I`ve been beating my 3.900 stroke 4.380 bore 400 low deck for over 4 1/2 years and it`s damn near bullet proof. Plus, the tq. and hp. were within 2 #`s of each other.


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Re: The perfect stroke? [Re: Thumperdart] #385225
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Whats the current build?

Re: The perfect stroke? [Re: Brian Hafliger] #385226
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OK, so if you build a low deck 540 with 4.5 bore an 4.250 stroke and use CNC ported 440-1 heads with 382cfm flow at .800 and 345cc intake volume w/ right roller cam,

Or build a 557" with 4.5 bore and 4.375 stroke, same heads, choose proper cam, how much difference in the powerband between the 2 strokes?

Thoughts?

Arnie



I would guess at around 300-500rpm peak HP and TQ...maybe?
HP does not always go up with more cid...even if you use a larger cam to try to make up for the cid, the intake system and exhaust system will determine more or less just how much effect the difference in cid makes.
I wouldn't think it would be worth the extra $$$ for that .125 stroke going from a 470cid Arnie!



Thats only a three percent increase in size, might not even vary by 200 rpm?


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