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Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/22/09 08:41 PM
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Also post whether or not you had to deep stage, and what your car will run flat out. My dart will go a best of 9.53 2 seasons ago with low gear trans, I could cut .001 light with no delay and shallow stage This season on shallow stage and running a best of 9.60's with standard low gear I cannot go better than .030 on shallow stage, however if I modify my stage routine to roll in deep I can go .00? and even red. My car weighs in at 2615 with me in it. The cuda I ran at Martin is capable of running 8.90 and Weighs in heavier than my Dart, I was able to cut consistent .002-.009 with no delay in box and shallow stage, however I ran delay that made my lights between .012 and .026 in eliminations, IMO the box could have cost me more races than it helped me with. 
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/22/09 08:49 PM
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.4 protree...3700 lbs car...footbrake no electronics. Car ran 11.60's.... best is .007...deep staged...and I got lucky. I was not consistant at all....  It was my first time running protree too..lol.
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/22/09 08:57 PM
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Lonnie correct me if I am wrong, Norwalk 2 years ago in the finals, wasn't mine a .027 against your .021? I cannot remember, mine average between .050 and .070 with out any delay, staged normal and weigh in at 3150# 
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/22/09 09:20 PM
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3350 no box best ever 028 normally 40 to 70 this is shallow staging(i always stage the same way, just habit) chip at 3400..were i to turn the launch chip up to 4500 or so, i have no doubt i could tighten those numbers up a little, but i would have to rake my seat out after every launch 
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.56 at 104.17
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/22/09 10:00 PM
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Lonnie correct me if I am wrong, Norwalk 2 years ago in the finals, wasn't mine a .027 against your .021? I cannot remember, mine average between .050 and .070 with out any delay, staged normal and weigh in at 3150#
Actually it was your .021 to my .027 you just could not quite run the number.
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/23/09 11:57 AM
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#2850 Dart in S/gas trim, box zeroed out 6000rpm launch netted low teen lites on divisional tree, not sure if that was .370 or .400 though? 8.2x's @ 165 1.18 60' I'm pretty close to Eric for full tree, 1.13-1.14 new car needs 1.16-1.17 to stay green 
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/23/09 12:19 PM
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Not sure where you are going with this thread but got an idea that you think Heavy Cars and .400 tres make for a good mix...I am not sure..I can average an .04 to .030 with a shallow stage and have seen a few not a lot but a few .00 lights when I deep stage.
Making the car hit a consistant .00 would require some changes....some easy some not so easy...If I was running an IHRA or NHRA class on a .400 tree I would probably change cars but for the 10.0 stuff we do I will just keep trying to get better at deep staging...
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/23/09 12:23 PM
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3235 with driver
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/23/09 12:30 PM
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At the last t&t I ran a .000 on my first pass COMPLETELY by luck and had people convinced I actually knew what I was doing then followed that with a string of crappy lights to prove I didn`t. 3150lbs. w/me.
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/23/09 01:18 PM
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Probably a stupid question..but..
Once both cars are staged the tree is activated super quick..at what point does it get activated. I get in shallow because i dont want the car to still be moving forward towards getting in deep with my brake button not pushed in, obviously.(0therwise the car wont move)
Do they wait until both cars have "found their spot"?? to activate the tree?
what i am trying to say is that say i want to get deeper than just turning on the bottom bulb, and the other guy is already in the gate, do they wait for my car to stop creeping deeper and then setting the brake and going to the wood before activating the tree
Last edited by B3422W5; 07/23/09 01:21 PM.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.56 at 104.17
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Re: Post your best .400 light and car weight with driver
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07/23/09 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Probably a stupid question..but..
Once both cars are staged the tree is activated super quick..at what point does it get activated. I get in shallow because i dont want the car to still be moving forward towards getting in deep with my brake button not pushed in, obviously.(0therwise the car wont move)
Do they wait until both cars have "found their spot"?? to activate the tree?
what i am trying to say is that say i want to get deeper than just turning on the bottom bulb, and the other guy is already in the gate, do they wait for my car to stop creeping deeper and then setting the brake and going to the wood before activating the tree
Nope - once all four bulbs are lit etiher Autostart (if on) will activate the tree or the starter will do it manually. If you are deep staging - make sure to write it on your windows and get there in a hurry.
If I am next to you and see that on your window - if we are in Quals or TNT - I will wait for you before I pull all the way in. If we are in elims, I won't wait very long - and you may run across someone who will double-bulb you just to screw with you.
The class I normally run does not allow deep staging.
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