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Largest Cam For Stock Springs #383511 07/22/09 08:10 PM 07/22/09 08:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 302 Northeast Texas MoparMuscle OP enthusiast
MoparMuscle OP enthusiast Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 302 Northeast Texas	I've still got a lot of deciding to do on the big motor for the Daytona. But I want to get it going so I can drive it around some now. I have a 440 that I took out of a motorhome that only has 59,000 miles on it. I decided to pop it in there for now but I do want it to at least sound like it has something more than just bone stock. I'm going to put an aluminum intake, Holley carb, aluminum valve covers and a chrome timing cover on it. Since I'll have the timing cover and valve covers off it will be easy to go ahead and change the cam. I also have a set of Crane iron rockers so the cam could be solid or hydraulic. What do you think is the biggest I can get away with? I also am thinking about using the converter out of the motorhome or should I leave the 8" in. 100% Mopar No Juice Added 2016 Challenger R/T Blacktop 5.7 6 SPD 2009 Ram 1500 5.7 http://moparmuscle.biz

Re: Largest Cam For Stock Springs [Re: MoparMuscle] #383512 07/22/09 08:24 PM 07/22/09 08:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer master
Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	484 purple shaft [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: Largest Cam For Stock Springs [Re: Bob_Coomer] #383513 07/22/09 08:34 PM 07/22/09 08:34 PM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Get any more than that you better start doing some measuring. There is no cut and dried answer but each combo should be checked for sure. Maske sure to check the guide/seal to retainer clearance too, it needs to have the same free travel (IMO a very minimum of .060) at full valve lift as teh valve springs.

Re: Largest Cam For Stock Springs [Re: MoparMuscle] #383514 07/22/09 08:42 PM 07/22/09 08:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego formula S mopar
formula S mopar Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego	Quote: I've still got a lot of deciding to do on the big motor for the Daytona. But I want to get it going so I can drive it around some now. I have a 440 that I took out of a motorhome that only has 59,000 miles on it. I decided to pop it in there for now but I do want it to at least sound like it has something more than just bone stock. I'm going to put an aluminum intake, Holley carb, aluminum valve covers and a chrome timing cover on it. Since I'll have the timing cover and valve covers off it will be easy to go ahead and change the cam. I also have a set of Crane iron rockers so the cam could be solid or hydraulic. What do you think is the biggest I can get away with? I also am thinking about using the converter out of the motorhome or should I leave the 8" in. Better make sure their is enough room for the valve seal. I ran into this problem with a 484 cam with stock unmodified heads. The valve stem bosses had to be cut down, and if you go that far, you might as well change the springs to at least stock 440 magnum springs, wich is a single spring w/damper. Your motorhome springs are just a single spring no damper, and may not like that much lift, or rpm that cam will produce.

Re: Largest Cam For Stock Springs [Re: MoparforLife] #383515 07/22/09 08:44 PM 07/22/09 08:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego formula S mopar
formula S mopar Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego	Quote: Gwet any more than that you better start doing some measuring. There is no cut and dried answer but each combo should be checked for sure. Maske sure to check the guide/seal to retainer clearance too, it needs to have the same free travel (IMO a very minimum of .060) at full valve lift as teh valve springs. You beat me to it

Re: Largest Cam For Stock Springs [Re: MoparMuscle] #383516 07/22/09 09:27 PM 07/22/09 09:27 PM
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solidcam enthusiast S Joined: May 2007 Posts: 209 New Zealand	Your motorhome heads may even have the exhaust rotator springs and retainers(which do not like any enhanced performance upgrading).With the amount of top-end removal you are looking at I would just pull the heads and go-over them.If your guide wear isn't bad you should be able for relatively low-bucks throw in some good springs,locks, retainers and seals.Measure retainer/guide clearance and if you have the adjustable rockers already definately look at a solid cam.

Re: Largest Cam For Stock Springs [Re: solidcam] #383517 07/22/09 09:45 PM 07/22/09 09:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 302 Northeast Texas MoparMuscle OP enthusiast
MoparMuscle OP enthusiast Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 302 Northeast Texas	Yes, unfortunately it does have the rotators. Looks like I might as well pull the heads and change the springs and retainers. I have a small roller that sounds really sweet .555I .564E 244-254. I can't remember how far down in the hole the pistons are on the motorhome engine. What are the chances it will have enough piston to valve clearance? 100% Mopar No Juice Added 2016 Challenger R/T Blacktop 5.7 6 SPD 2009 Ram 1500 5.7 http://moparmuscle.biz

Re: Largest Cam For Stock Springs [Re: MoparMuscle] #383518 07/22/09 09:56 PM 07/22/09 09:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	If it's a 73+ 440, pistons should be around .15-.16 in the hole +/- for machining tolerances. Not sure how much valve lift you can get away with, but with pistons that far in the hole I suspect you can run a fairly big cam before it becomes an issue, but better to check it than to be sorry.

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