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904 race trans wish list #383044
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If you were to go from a 727 to a 904 in your low 10 second A body. What would you be looking for in a list of parts to build a race 904 transmission and a converter recommendation for same? I'm looking for a parts list that will withstand a 3200 pound A body on a trans brake running Cal Tracs. this is not an "open check book" situation, so please be budget minded.
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Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: dc426] #383045
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A multi-spring retainer for high gear drum and swap in your existing
valve body. (about the only interchangable component)

Converters are obviously different and aftermarket units fit 68-up.
If your current converter is working to your satisfaction, have
the manufacturer duplicate it on a 904 core.

Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: S/ST 3040] #383046
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Harden input shaft

Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: scottb] #383047
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5 clutches in the front clutch pac


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Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: 70AARcuda] #383048
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Rollerized output shaft support

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Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: DavidDean] #383049
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anyone else wanna add anything?

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rollerized gov support a must ,wide pump gears if you machine little off top end plate you can fit 5 frictions in forward too and all the above.I dont think you need harded input shaft i have a stocker in mine over 500 hp to wheels 2500 lbs car leave 6000rpm on brake 27 psi of boost.mid 9's.

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Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: turbocolt2.4L] #383051
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I wouldn't swap

Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: dc426] #383052
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anyone else wanna add anything?


same oiling mod's and build procedure's as a 727, high quality clutch's, band's, bushing's and thrust bearing's, and keep clearance's tight.


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Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: dartman366] #383053
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Try and find a core with steel planetries if you can.
Sell your 727 and convertor to pay for the parts of your 904.
Parts I'd buy-
Roller rear support.

re-use your brake or pick up a Griner or similar.

Quality rebuild kit including new bushes and thrusts etc.

If your budget allows an aluminium drum and a hardened Input shaft would be nice.

We usually run a bIgger neck (BW35) as well.
AL.....


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We usually run a bIgger neck




not sure what your talking about here?

Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: dc426] #383055
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We usually run a bIgger neck




not sure what your talking about here?


I think he may be talking about a thicker wall pump drive hub.


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Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: Quicktree] #383056
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I wouldn't swap





I wouldn't either.That 727 is going to last a lot longer than the 904 will,even if the 904 is race prepped with all the goodies.


Nautilus Racing-
We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: Chris2581] #383057
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I wouldn't swap





I wouldn't either.That 727 is going to last a lot longer than the 904 will,even if the 904 is race prepped with all the goodies.




It all depends on what its going behind, your intended use, and how well the trans is built... SS/AH Hemi Cars wouldnt run 904 internals if it werent worth it.


11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.

9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: dc426] #383058
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We usually run a bIgger neck




not sure what your talking about here?




larger diameter neck on convertor

you will gain ET with the 904, but it will come at a cost


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SS/AH Hemi Cars wouldnt run 904 internals if it werent worth it.




Oh, it's worth it.......but, they don't use that lightweight stuff because it strong
and I doubt there is one thing in them that originally came in a 904.

Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: S/ST 3040] #383060
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SS/AH Hemi Cars wouldnt run 904 internals if it werent worth it.




Oh, it's worth it.......but, they don't use that lightweight stuff because it strong
and I doubt there is one thing in them that originally came in a 904.




I understand your point. I just dont agree with the viewpoints of many Mopurists that its 727 or nothing. 904's have their worth as well. I already have a good number of performance 904 parts, so for me, I'll stick with the 904 until im proven its not worth it anymore. Which will be much farther than most would ever dare.


11.48 @ 120 with a 1.80 60' 318, stock 1.88 heads, stock 904, Pump Gas, 13 lbs of boost.

9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: dc426] #383061
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ask Dave at pro trans, I dont think he will sell you something you dont need....

Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: LA360] #383062
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Try and find a core with steel planetries if you can.
Sell your 727 and convertor to pay for the parts of your 904.
Parts I'd buy-
Roller rear support.

re-use your brake or pick up a Griner or similar.

Quality rebuild kit including new bushes and



thrusts etc.

If your budget allows an aluminium drum and a hardened Input shaft would be nice.

We usually run a bIgger neck (BW35) as well.
AL.....





Find a '76 or later 904 for a core, they come with the steel planetaries. The pre '76 ones have aluminium planetaries and are a weak link.

Re: 904 race trans wish list [Re: Mcode69] #383063
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larger diameter neck on convertor




how is this accomplished? what about the pump, what do you do there?
DC

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