Re: power valve question
[Re: dynamite]
#382725
07/22/09 09:41 PM
07/22/09 09:41 PM
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JimG
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The power valve has no effect at idle. It sounds like the idle or possibly the transfer circuit is lean, based on your description. Can you tell from the smell whether it's excessively rich or lean at idle? Any clouds of black smoke? Look here http://members.tccoa.com/392bird/carbtech.htm& scroll about halfway down to the photo of the carb ,main body and metering block. In the metering block, be sure 25 is not blocked. Spray some carb cleaner through it until you know it's clear. Ditto 6 and 4. Remove the idle mixture screws first. Continuing with the aerosol carb cleaner in the main body, be sure 3 is open to the idle discharge port (below the throttle plates when they're closed) and 4 is open to the transfer slots (above the throttle plates when closed). Be sure 6 is open to the idle air bleeds (a brass orfice, one in each barrel). Has the carb ever been rebuilt? The wrong main body to throttle plate gasket can block off a passage necessary for idle/transfer. Is you PCV stuck open? That would cause a huge vacuum leak, the effect would be worse at idle. If we knew if the idle was rich or lean, it would help. Jim
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Re: power valve question
[Re: mark7171]
#382728
07/23/09 07:48 AM
07/23/09 07:48 AM
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Bill MeLater
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too mild of a cam.
need at least 360-361* duration. and a 1" lift at the valve.
You want the all valves open, all the time. It will scream like a jet.
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Re: power valve question
[Re: dynamite]
#382729
07/24/09 11:37 AM
07/24/09 11:37 AM
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dgc333
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cam is hyd roller..degreed in at 107, gross lift is 530 intake and 530 ex, duration @.006 284 in & 292 ex, seperation 112 ,duration @ 050 intake 232 ex 240..Idles bab bad ..off idle comes to life....I'll check vacume again tomorrow
What's your initial timing? With that cam your engine will want close to 20 degrees BTDC initial.
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Re: power valve question
[Re: mark7171]
#382733
07/24/09 03:52 PM
07/24/09 03:52 PM
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Sixgun
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SOMETIMES... you can get lost in the forest/trees thing... In the last 10 years or so I had 2 motors that just plain wouldn't idle, I am not stupid, but after chasing these things for too long, I figured out what many of you already know.Some combinations NEED a short and quick advance curve(they need more than "stock" initial advance, but no more that 35-38 total at about 3K. If you set the initial where it will idle OK, it has waaaay too much total, and the opposite is true i.e. I was using stock type distributors as triggers.The first one(1 452 RB with the old .509 MP purple)just got an old cast iron tach drive DC electronic distrib. The second was more recent, and I ended up welding up the advance curve slots below the stator plate about 1/8" and it runs like never before.Not saying this is your problem, but I wasted a lot of time and endured dirty looks from my wife as her car wanted to conk out/overheat/or take off at 1500 rpm idle depending on where I tried the timing that day Luck, Casey
I'm 55 now, no time to waste. Not a week goes by that I don't hear about someone passing on.Let's get out there,smoke some tires,have a beer with a good friend,do what you have always wanted to do.I am pretty sure no one will ever say on their deathbed "gee I'm glad my life was calm and boring"
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