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Explain how cross talk works #380463 07/19/09 09:27 PM 07/19/09 09:27 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 916 Arizona Chucklehead OP super stock
Chucklehead OP super stock Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 916 Arizona	How does it work and why do you use it? Still Broke

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Chucklehead] #380464 07/19/09 09:50 PM 07/19/09 09:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,101 Yes S sixpakdodge master
sixpakdodge master S Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,101 Yes	Crosstalk allows racers who crossover to launch off of their opponent's top bulb to launch off of the top bulb of their own side of the tree. When a slower car's light comes on, the quicker car's light also comes on.

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: sixpakdodge] #380465 07/19/09 10:12 PM 07/19/09 10:12 PM
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10sec440 pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,278 Mission BC	Simply put, assuming you know what crossing over is and why you do it: When crosstalk is activated, both first yellow lights come on at the same time,so that the faster car doesnt have to look at the slower side of the tree to cross over.

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: 10sec440] #380466 07/19/09 10:23 PM 07/19/09 10:23 PM
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slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,179 Park Forest, IL	The top bulb on the faster cars side will also stay lit until his side of the tree comes down. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: 10sec440] #380467 07/19/09 10:25 PM 07/19/09 10:25 PM
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Bigbeep super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA	It also evens up the amount of time a driver can "hit" the tree. Now the faster car can only hit the tree twice just like the slower car. Just crossing over give the faster car three hits at the tree. Once on the slower cars light, their top bulb, and their bottom bulb. I am lucky if I hit the tree just once.

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Bigbeep] #380468 07/20/09 12:02 AM 07/20/09 12:02 AM
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68roadrunner super stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 877 ky	can we go back to the 5 bulb tree, so i can hit it that many times.

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: 68roadrunner] #380469 07/20/09 06:33 AM 07/20/09 06:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY Bigcube I Live Here
Bigcube I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY	I have never used a delay box. Can someone explain how you can hit the tree more than once? Will the box turn off if you press the button again and act like it would with no brake and leave when you lift off the button again on the last bulb? Jim

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Chucklehead] #380470 07/20/09 06:39 AM 07/20/09 06:39 AM
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HR3128 mopar H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 430 Michigan	This explains crosstalk. http://www.competitionplus.com/01_15_2004/new_lights.html

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: 68roadrunner] #380471 07/20/09 07:16 AM 07/20/09 07:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi Evil Spirit master
Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	Quote: can we go back to the 5 bulb tree, so i can hit it that many times. Or go to a pro tree, and leave all the electronic crap in video games where they belong. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Evil Spirit] #380472 07/20/09 07:25 AM 07/20/09 07:25 AM
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bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	Quote: Quote: can we go back to the 5 bulb tree, so i can hit it that many times. Or go to a pro tree, and leave all the electronic crap in video games where they belong. BINGO!!!! we have a driver.

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Evil Spirit] #380473 07/20/09 07:31 AM 07/20/09 07:31 AM
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BDS871Cuda top fuel B Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,949 land of 10,000______'s	Quote: Quote: can we go back to the 5 bulb tree, so i can hit it that many times. Or go to a pro tree, and leave all the electronic crap in video games where they belong. Is this anything like backtalk like you do to your mother! Crosstalk? what the %#@k I agree with the to much electronic crap. Snap your neck, mega G-force launch, is all I want!

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: BDS871Cuda] #380474 07/20/09 09:17 AM 07/20/09 09:17 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	If you guys are good, what do you care if the other guy uses a box.... I like them ..... JMO Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 07/20/09 10:16 AM.

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: MR_P_BODY] #380475 07/20/09 10:21 AM 07/20/09 10:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi Evil Spirit master
Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	There is an item mentioned in the link that explains CrossTalk that are very upsetting to me. They mention some tracks aim the lights not directly at the drivers in each lane, but straight back to give the driver in the other lane a better view of the tree. So MY visibility at MY tree is impared so the guy in the other lane can see it. That's Bull****. The faster car allready has the advantage on the red-lights; he gets 1 (or more) extra tries at the tree; now you are turning the tree so I can't see it as well! Some people need a sign in their window - Please LET Me Win. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Bigcube] #380476 07/20/09 10:48 AM 07/20/09 10:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,104 Wheels up, MO N nhramark master
nhramark master N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,104 Wheels up, MO	Quote: I have never used a delay box. Can someone explain how you can hit the tree more than once? Will the box turn off if you press the button again and act like it would with no brake and leave when you lift off the button again on the last bulb? Modern crossover delay boxes are programmed for several different options. You can program it so you let go of the button on your (slower) opponents top bulb, then you can hit the button again and release it on your own top bulb and/or your second or third bulb. The box computes which was the "best" (quickest)leave and uses that one. However the box cannot differentiate between a red light and a green light, so your "best" leave could be a red light. I don't think there are many that use multiple hits anymore unless they know they were late on the first hit. [image]http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/nhramark1/library/Racing[/image] 9.100 @ 150 mph 5.780 @ 120 mph

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: bonefish] #380477 07/20/09 10:54 AM 07/20/09 10:54 AM
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nhramark master N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,104 Wheels up, MO	Quote: Or go to a pro tree, and leave all the electronic crap in video games where they belong. BINGO!!!! we have a driver. That sounds good on paper but it would cause some problems as well. If you stage your Roadrunner, Cuda, Dart, etc., against a dragster or tube chassis car on a pro tree..... you are going to get waxed on a steady basis. Lighter cars and non suspended cars will react much quicker than a typical back halved or leaf sprung bracket car. I like the IDEA of a pro tree also, but it's a lot more complicated than that. [image]http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/nhramark1/library/Racing[/image] 9.100 @ 150 mph 5.780 @ 120 mph

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Evil Spirit] #380478 07/20/09 11:04 AM 07/20/09 11:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas	Quote: Some people need a sign in their window - Please LET Me Win. Yep thats it, put a box in your car and you become an instant hitter thats how it works I wish everyone who thought putting in a box makes you a better racer would come over to this side and give it a try. After all us box guys would not be any good if it were not for the delay boxes. So come on over, throw in a delay box and toss in a throttle stop, because that just makes it even easier and show us how it is done. Jump in with both feet the water is just fine "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Al_Alguire] #380479 07/20/09 11:53 AM 07/20/09 11:53 AM
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71cuda enthusiast 7 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 205 upstate new york	the problem i have with cross talk is i'm a footbraker,proclass no electronics.when i go into super pro if i'm the faster car it really screws up reaction time.top bulb stays on awyhere from 1-2 seconds the drops.running that class with out a box is hard enough without having the tree screw with you.

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: 71cuda] #380480 07/20/09 12:04 PM 07/20/09 12:04 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: the problem i have with cross talk is i'm a footbraker,proclass no electronics.when i go into super pro if i'm the faster car it really screws up reaction time.top bulb stays on awyhere from 1-2 seconds the drops.running that class with out a box is hard enough without having the tree screw with you. I dont know if all tracks do it BUT put a N on your windshield for "no cross talk" this wont get you the top light popping on till its for your side of the tree

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: 71cuda] #380481 07/20/09 12:07 PM 07/20/09 12:07 PM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Quote: the problem i have with cross talk is i'm a footbraker,proclass no electronics.when i go into super pro if i'm the faster car it really screws up reaction time.top bulb stays on awyhere from 1-2 seconds the drops.running that class with out a box is hard enough without having the tree screw with you. in vegas if you are the faster car you can have the crosstalk turned off by putting a N next to your dial in...then you will get a regular full tree. Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Explain how cross talk works [Re: Evil Spirit] #380482 07/20/09 12:08 PM 07/20/09 12:08 PM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Quote: There is an item mentioned in the link that explains CrossTalk that are very upsetting to me. They mention some tracks aim the lights not directly at the drivers in each lane, but straight back to give the driver in the other lane a better view of the tree. So MY visibility at MY tree is impared so the guy in the other lane can see it. That's Bull****. The faster car allready has the advantage on the red-lights; he gets 1 (or more) extra tries at the tree; now you are turning the tree so I can't see it as well! Some people need a sign in their window - Please LET Me Win. and the guy in the other lane is thinking the same thing... Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

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