It has been explained to me that if i change to the AFCO double adjustable front shocks that i can limit my wheel stands effectively. Anyone have an opinion to this or are wheelie bars a must?

My car has 60'd a best of 1.40 but too much wheel stand and not enough front shock to handle the landing. So, something needs to change.

no bars in extreme, took awhile to learn but my car has been 1.26 in the sixty, in my opinion you cant get a good enough ft shock

Sorry, but what do you mean by "No bars in extreme"

I have the Afco double adjustable fronts and love them. I think you can control the wheel stands with them. With the W2 motor I had them loose on the extension and tight on compression, there is no bounce when it comes down. On the new motor I'm sure I will have to tighten the extension up a little to control the front coming up.

Donald

gearjammer, what car do you have them on? The compressed length seems to be too long for my duster. I have the comp engineering 3 ways and have about one inch exposed shaft. The afco's are about an inch longer on the collapsed length. Do you have an opinion on this?

Santhuffs are the only front a body shocks that work, are short enough, and last. Ask me how I know. Mike

Do Santuffs come in anything different than 3.5" travel?

thats 3.5 at the shock, not the front tire. They have plenty of travel. If your car is lower than stock you'll probably have around five inches or more of up travel. They work in anything from a low horsepower stocker to a full on pro mod. Mike

Thanks everyone for your responses. Leaning toward the AFCO. Looks like their adjustability is a little more user friendly over the santhuffs.

A lot depends on how hard you hit the back tires, and how much torque you will carry in the first 60 ft. If you have a deal like mine, the shocks give great control, ( AFCO doubles, no problems in ten years) but can't overcome the brutal torque that can dead lift the front end off the ground at will.
If it were mine, I certainly would start with the double adjustable shocks, with a fairly stiff compression setting, mild extension setting to start. See how it goes, If you need more control in the extension setting, then try raising the instant center if possible, to initially push the front down on launch. That will slow the wheel stand, but depending on torque, might not be able to keep it where you want.
A simple formula to figure out how much ability to lift the fronts, is; SLR x 2 (torque converter) times input torque. In my case it comes out to ;11.17 x 2 x 800 ft lbs = 17872 ft lbs x .90 (driveline loss)=16084 ft lbs at the axles.
divide this number by 16 inch (tire radius) x 12inch and you get the torque at the tire surface =12063 ft lbs.
My wheel base is 106 inch, divide by 12 = 8.83 feet.
Take the torque of 12063, divide by 8.83 = 1366 lbs that my combo could DEAD LIFT. But I have springs helping it get a running start.
My front weight is about 1350 unsprung, so you can get an idea why it hits the wheelie bars so hard it unloads the rear tires.

Very nice educated response. Thank you. I will do the math. However, i slightly understand instant center and have thought about trying the top hole on my cal tracs to move the instant center 'rearward'. Is this the same meaning as moving the instant center 'up'?

Mike, after reading about the shocks adjustment procedure on the website, their adjustment procedure seems a little more involved as apposed to the 'click' procedure (referring to the rebound adjustment). Also seems like they have to be removed for additional adjustments. Can you shed any light on this?

A reference that can compare the two would be much appreciated. Afterall, for over 4 bills per shock, I would like to get the best!!

Steve

The adjustment procedure section of their website is actually referring to the procedure you have to do before you install them. Basically you put them vertical and move them up and down which moves all of the trapped air to the top. The extension and rebound adjustments are made by turning knobs. Nothing complicated at all. If you want the best, buy the Santhuff's. If you buy them and don't like them Ron will give you your money back, and he hasn't had to yet. Mike

Hey, one of my customers may have some afco's that were used one season and have just been rebuilt. Mike

their website was a little confusing