Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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ps, anything i should be aware of anything before pulling my doors off to give them extra attention? i havent pulled doors before. (they have the classic inside-bottom rust out crap going)
Make sure you have at least one other person there to help remove them. Two people helping is better...those doors aren't super heavy, but they're a big awkward shape and you don't want to damage them.
You might want to seriously consider replacing the hinge pin bushings while you have them apart. Those doors are so long they put a *lot* of leverage on the bushings and they wear out over time. The bushings are only a couple of bucks. Grease them before you put the pins in. IMHO the hinges they used on 3rd gen F cars were never a very good design...seems like you see a lot of them with saggy drivers side doors. If you can lift the doors without any play in the hinges, you've either got a very low milage car, or you're extremely lucky . Anyway, getting them off is the easy part...hanging them is the hard part. Like I said before, get at least one other person to help hold it...that helps a lot.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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LOOKING GOOD SO FAR. I AM PRESENTLY DOING A 87 IROC. AS FOR THE DOORS...A FLOOR JACK WITH A SOFT PAD WORKS GREAT ON THE REAR CORNER OF THE DOOR.. I USE A FOLDED OLD T-SHIRT ON TOP. I HAVE DONE THIS JOB ALONE USING THIS METHOD BUT STILL WORKS BETTER WITH HELPER. ALS BE CAREFUL OF THE WIRING FOR THE DOOR LOCKS AND WINDOWS
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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07/26/07 04:22 PM
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whenever I over do it with the roller, I get orange peel which I think its much harder to get rid of than brush marks.
Just a heads up... If you have any curved test panels, you may want to test the roll and tip method there first. This is where I've had a difficult time smoothing my brush marks out. Since the rubber block won't conform to curves, I've sanded my fender back to the original paint with my hands and the ripples are still there. I've yet to try the foam kneepad trick yet but I'll let you know how it works, maybe ths weekend.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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what is roll and tip method?
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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07/26/07 10:12 PM
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"Roll and tip" is the term used to describe the technique of rolling paint, then using a brush to help level the surface. Using this method will reduce orange peel, but create ripples. Here's how the boaters do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK9Zcm543x0
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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from my (1st rusto)experience if I could still see roller marks I just kept going until enough new paint blended right over them. In other words you probably need more coats.
The thing is I used to own a body shop and this stuff is all contrary to almost everything I learned while running my business. But with a little effort and trial and error it can look nice. here's a truck I just did: new to this site so not sure how to post more pics. By the way I tried that wet sanding stuff between coats. No Way! way to much work. after 3rd coat I just laid em on real smooth with roller did about 8-9coats w/ no primer on a brown background. only reason I wet sanded after final coat was to bring out the shine in the very small metal flake I added to the last coat. after that I put a clear in an air can ad sprayed it on.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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07/27/07 12:53 PM
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have no clue how to put up pics sorry guys i'll get em posted soon.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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Just a little update. I have been making some serious head way in painting. I havent been having a problem with orange peel as the paint seems to level out mostly and if I do start to see it creep up, it seems to help out if I run the roller over it. Ive spent about 2-3 weeks on an off on the car and I like where its headed. Im planning to finish up next week. This paint is as tough as nails man, Ive accidentally wacked it several times with the metal roller arm and no chips or scratches. Very pleased with the outcome thus far, its not perfect and has some gouges from the years but Im ok, gives it a small rat rod flair, and I didnt want it perfect. http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/Ghia109/?action=view¤t=P1040748.jpg
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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07/27/07 10:14 PM
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Calling on the wisdom of Marq, Charger, or whomever... On my test panel, I am using Rusto and am to the point that the formerly brown panel is now definitely red. Paint is thin, following the "roll it in the pan" to squeeze excess off before "wetting" the panel with paint. That seems to work very well for me as far as getting the paint to flow out so I don't get roller marks. But, the paint is drying with a more matte finish, it's not glossy like it would be if I brushed it on very thick and just left it to dry, brush marks and all (It's glossier from where it drips down the side of the can than it is on my test door). My theory is that I still don't have enough layers of paint so either 1. I just need more thickness for it to gloss or 2. I am still seeing the matte finish from where I wetsanded the coat below it. What say those with more experience?
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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07/27/07 11:42 PM
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Umm have anyone or you guys heard of the Meguiars SOLO system? What are your thoughts about it?
It is for freshly painted cars -- for bodyshops. I just finished painting maybe 2 months ago...Can I still use it?
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