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it's an INDY set-up with the fuel rails going directly into the manifold. I don't know much about them on old cars, but seems like it would be better than my edelbrock 800 and m1 intake

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i think it would look crazy hacked on stock looking muscle car, plus you would have to run all new feul system like race car all braided lines/an fittings, custum cell with efi pump, and return lines, then figure out were the mile of wires/computer are going to go? would be cool on old street rod. you can buy dual four intake/carbs/cleaner pretty cheap now id go that route,nothing sounds better than hemi with both carbs wide open

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it's moparts member that has one for sale with the ecu, rails, manifold, throttle body etc. says its complete. hhow has the performance been with it as opposed to the carb?

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Mine isn't running yet. I'm sure tomatoes will be thrown at me soon if it doesn't get running.
Mine is an individual runner intake, which is different than most intakes as far as characteristics go. I think the absolute ultimate hp numbers can usually be gotten with a carb if I'm not mistaken, but when the horsepower and torque are measured from idle to top rpm there wouldn't be much of a comparison in most cases, the EFI provides a well tuned engine for A/F ratios compared to carbs. Depends on the system and who tunes it I guess...

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it's an INDY set-up with the fuel rails going directly into the manifold. I don't know much about them on old cars, but seems like it would be better than my edelbrock 800 and m1 intake

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i think it would look crazy hacked on stock looking muscle car, plus you would have to run all new feul system like race car all braided lines/an fittings, custum cell with efi pump, and return lines, then figure out were the mile of wires/computer are going to go? would be cool on old street rod. you can buy dual four intake/carbs/cleaner pretty cheap now id go that route,nothing sounds better than hemi with both carbs wide open

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Looks pretty hacked up to me.

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would it add any more power or just make the power available more readily available/efficient. fuel mileage?

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More power depends on how good you are at tuning a carb. I will tinker with a carb to get everything I can out of it, but most systems, efi vs carb, are within a few ponies. The advantages of the efi are super easy starting and idling, along with far better milage. There are systems out there that are not a lot of hassle. The new EZ-EFI from FAST is one that is self learning, and does not require a laptop.

I have been running EFI on Hemis for some time now, and like anything else, a well designed system will keep you away from many of the issues that can plague an engine converted to EFI with the wrong componants.

I run the older classic FAST system on my hemi, and would not trade it for two carbs. The system you saw for sale is an Accel DFI system, and they can be difficult to work with. Its a good deal price wise, but not easy to set-up or tune.

My car right out of winter storage for a Febuary in Buffalo car show....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IX1F4V1Yi0

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i think it would look crazy hacked on stock looking muscle car, plus you would have to run all new feul system like race car all braided lines/an fittings, custum cell with efi pump, and return lines, then figure out were the mile of wires/computer are going to go? would be cool on old street rod. you can buy dual four intake/carbs/cleaner pretty cheap now id go that route,nothing sounds better than hemi with both carbs wide open

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looking at an EFI unit for my hemi and would like some opinions or experiences with EFI on an old school engine.

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i think it would look crazy hacked on stock looking muscle car, plus you would have to run all new feul system like race car all braided lines/an fittings, custum cell with efi pump, and return lines, then figure out were the mile of wires/computer are going to go? would be cool on old street rod. you can buy dual four intake/carbs/cleaner pretty cheap now id go that route,nothing sounds better than hemi with both carbs wide open

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OEM efi cars didn't run braided lines or an fittings, so I don't see why you bring that up. For EFI pumps there are several options that use a stock gas tank, fuel cell is not needed. If adding one return line is like pulling teeth to you, you probably don't know how to tune a carb anyway. Yes you will have to see the injectors and fuel rails, but if you run your wiring carefully and run an oval 6-pack style air cleaner you can hide most of the EFI hardware/fuel system, even with a multiport setup. And if laid out with care and combined with your stock wiring harness, the extra wiring for the efi system need not be clearly visible. Likely won't make it 100% invisible but you can hide a lot of it.

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was just trying to prepare the guy for the radical changes he will have to do,he dosent know thanks why he was asking.so you have the capability to make your own stainless or plastic quick disconnect efi lines? how can you ass-ume i dont know carbs when all my cars are dual quad hemi or 440 six pack all rebuilt by me. lets see pics of your super clean efi install on anything.....nice winter car in sig

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i think it would look crazy hacked on stock looking muscle car, plus you would have to run all new feul system like race car all braided lines/an fittings, custum cell with efi pump, and return lines, then figure out were the mile of wires/computer are going to go? would be cool on old street rod. you can buy dual four intake/carbs/cleaner pretty cheap now id go that route,nothing sounds better than hemi with both carbs wide open

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OEM efi cars didn't run braided lines or an fittings, so I don't see why you bring that up. For EFI pumps there are several options that use a stock gas tank, fuel cell is not needed. If adding one return line is like pulling teeth to you, you probably don't know how to tune a carb anyway. Yes you will have to see the injectors and fuel rails, but if you run your wiring carefully and run an oval 6-pack style air cleaner you can hide most of the EFI hardware/fuel system, even with a multiport setup. And if laid out with care and combined with your stock wiring harness, the extra wiring for the efi system need not be clearly visible. Likely won't make it 100% invisible but you can hide a lot of it.

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was just trying to prepare the guy for the radical changes he will have to do,he dosent know thanks why he was asking.so you have the capability to make your own stainless or plastic quick disconnect efi lines? how can you ass-ume i dont know carbs when all my cars are dual quad hemi or 440 six pack all rebuilt by me. lets see pics of your super clean efi install on anything.....nice winter car in sig

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You appear to have absolutely have no idea what your talking about
Why would you need quick disconnect efi lines? The only major changes to the fuel system is a return line,high pressure pump, and regulator
Just look at some of Rich's installs if you want any idea of how neat efi systems can be.
Don't keep your head in the sand when it comes to F.I. The technology is incredible.

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i think it would look crazy hacked on stock looking muscle car, plus you would have to run all new feul system like race car all braided lines/an fittings, custum cell with efi pump, and return lines, then figure out were the mile of wires/computer are going to go? would be cool on old street rod. you can buy dual four intake/carbs/cleaner pretty cheap now id go that route,nothing sounds better than hemi with both carbs wide open

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OEM efi cars didn't run braided lines or an fittings, so I don't see why you bring that up. For EFI pumps there are several options that use a stock gas tank, fuel cell is not needed. If adding one return line is like pulling teeth to you, you probably don't know how to tune a carb anyway. Yes you will have to see the injectors and fuel rails, but if you run your wiring carefully and run an oval 6-pack style air cleaner you can hide most of the EFI hardware/fuel system, even with a multiport setup. And if laid out with care and combined with your stock wiring harness, the extra wiring for the efi system need not be clearly visible. Likely won't make it 100% invisible but you can hide a lot of it.

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was just trying to prepare the guy for the radical changes he will have to do,he dosent know thanks why he was asking.so you have the capability to make your own stainless or plastic quick disconnect efi lines? how can you ass-ume i dont know carbs when all my cars are dual quad hemi or 440 six pack all rebuilt by me. lets see pics of your super clean efi install on anything.....nice winter car in sig

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i think it would look crazy hacked on stock looking muscle car, plus you would have to run all new feul system like race car all braided lines/an fittings, custum cell with efi pump, and return lines, then figure out were the mile of wires/computer are going to go? would be cool on old street rod. you can buy dual four intake/carbs/cleaner pretty cheap now id go that route,nothing sounds better than hemi with both carbs wide open

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OEM efi cars didn't run braided lines or an fittings, so I don't see why you bring that up. For EFI pumps there are several options that use a stock gas tank, fuel cell is not needed. If adding one return line is like pulling teeth to you, you probably don't know how to tune a carb anyway. Yes you will have to see the injectors and fuel rails, but if you run your wiring carefully and run an oval 6-pack style air cleaner you can hide most of the EFI hardware/fuel system, even with a multiport setup. And if laid out with care and combined with your stock wiring harness, the extra wiring for the efi system need not be clearly visible. Likely won't make it 100% invisible but you can hide a lot of it.

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was just trying to prepare the guy for the radical changes he will have to do,he dosent know thanks why he was asking.so you have the capability to make your own stainless or plastic quick disconnect efi lines? how can you ass-ume i dont know carbs when all my cars are dual quad hemi or 440 six pack all rebuilt by me. lets see pics of your super clean efi install on anything.....nice winter car in sig

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You appear to have absolutely have no idea what your talking about
Why would you need quick disconnect efi lines? The only major changes to the fuel system is a return line,high pressure pump, and regulator
Just look at some of Rich's installs if you want any idea of how neat efi systems can be.
Don't keep your head in the sand when it comes to F.I. The technology is incredible.

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yes ive looked at them for years, now the tech, and manifolds i want are finally here have talked to tim-b about the 2x4 efi on stage-v street hemi intake allready, wont be long before i convert a carbed hemi over