Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van #364548
07/02/09 04:38 PM
07/02/09 04:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,167
ERIE PA home of the RENCH MOB
mike_vango Offline OP
super stock
mike_vango  Offline OP
super stock

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,167
ERIE PA home of the RENCH MOB
having a hard time getting the fan/clutch off of a friends van. it is threaded on to the water pump and we can't get it off. we did manage to remove the water pump with the fan still attached. it is hard to get the leaverage to turn the big nut. anyone know any tricks to help us out? thanks

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: mike_vango] #364549
07/02/09 04:56 PM
07/02/09 04:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,605
md
M
mopars4ever Online content
I Live Here
mopars4ever  Online Content
I Live Here
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,605
md
I put a large wrench on it and smacked it with a hammer. I`m sure there is a better way but it worked for me.

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: mopars4ever] #364550
07/02/09 05:08 PM
07/02/09 05:08 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 15,487
Florida
S
scratchnfotraction Offline
I Live Here
scratchnfotraction  Offline
I Live Here
S

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 15,487
Florida
I used vise grips and a BFH to wack it

its left hand threds also..

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: mike_vango] #364551
07/02/09 05:34 PM
07/02/09 05:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,865
MI, usa
dvw Offline
master
dvw  Offline
master

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,865
MI, usa
Air chisel with a blunt bit. works every time. Bust it loose and should come off by hand. Hand tighten to reinstall,the rotation of the engine will tighten it.
Doug

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: dvw] #364552
07/02/09 05:52 PM
07/02/09 05:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,605
md
M
mopars4ever Online content
I Live Here
mopars4ever  Online Content
I Live Here
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,605
md
Quote:

its left hand threds also..


I`m pretty sure mine was right hand threads. It should say on the fan shroud IIRC

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: mopars4ever] #364553
07/02/09 06:28 PM
07/02/09 06:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
M
MoparforLife Offline
Too Many Posts
MoparforLife  Offline
Too Many Posts
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
Left hand threads.

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: MoparforLife] #364554
07/02/09 06:43 PM
07/02/09 06:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,605
md
M
mopars4ever Online content
I Live Here
mopars4ever  Online Content
I Live Here
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,605
md
WATER PUMP - V-6 AND V-8 ENGINES
REMOVAL
The water pump on all models can be removed without discharging the air conditioning system (if equipped)

The water pump on all gas powered engines is bolted directly to the engine timing chain case/cover.

On all 3.9L/5.2L/5.9L gas powered engines, a gasket is used as a seal between the water pump and timing chain case/cover.

If water pump is replaced because of bearing/shaft damage or leaking shaft seal, the mechanical cooling fan assembly should also be inspected. Inspect for fatigue cracks, loose blades or loose rivets that could have resulted from excessive vibration. Replace fan if any of these conditions are found. Also check condition of the thermal viscous fan drive. Refer to Viscous Fan Drive in this group.

Disconnect negative battery cable from battery.
Drain cooling system. Refer to Draining Cooling System in this group.
Do not waste reusable coolant. If solution is clean, drain coolant into a clean container for reuse.

Remove windshield washer reservoir tank from radiator fan shroud. Refer to Windshield Wiper and Washer Systems.
Disconnect the coolant reserve/overflow tank-to-radiator hose at the tank.
Remove the four fan shroud mounting bolts at the radiator Typical Fan Shroud Mounting Do not attempt to remove shroud from vehicle at this time.
WARNING: CONSTANT TENSION HOSE CLAMPS ARE USED ON MOST COOLING SYSTEM HOSES. WHEN REMOVING OR INSTALLING, USE ONLY TOOLS DESIGNED FOR SERVICING THIS TYPE OF CLAMP, SUCH AS SPECIAL CLAMP TOOL (NUMBER 6094) SNAP-ON CLAMP TOOL (NUMBER HPC-20) MAY BE USED FOR LARGER CLAMPS. ALWAYS WEAR SAFETY GLASSES WHEN SERVICING CONSTANT TENSION CLAMPS.

CAUTION: A number or letter is stamped into the tongue of constant tension clamps. If replacement is necessary, use only an original equipment clamp with a matching number or letter.
CAUTION: A number or letter is stamped into the tongue of constant tension clamps. If replacement is necessary, use only an original equipment clamp with a matching number or letter.

Remove upper radiator hose at radiator.
The thermal viscous fan drive is attached (threaded) to the water pump hub shaft Fan Blade and Viscous Fan Drive - Typical Remove the fan/fan drive assembly from water pump by turning the mounting nut counterclockwise (as viewed from front) Threads on the fan drive are RIGHT-HAND. A Snap-On 36 MM Fan Wrench (number SP346 from Snap-On Cummins Diesel Tool Set number 2017DSP) can be used. Place a bar or screwdriver between the water pump pulley bolts Fan Blade and Viscous Fan Drive - Typical to prevent the pulley from rotating.
If water pump is being replaced, do not unbolt fan blade assembly Fan Blade and Viscous Fan Drive - Typical from the thermal control fan drive.
Remove fan blade/fan drive and fan shroud as an assembly from vehicle.
After removing fan blade/fan drive assembly, do not place the thermal viscous fan drive in the horizontal position. If stored horizontally, the silicone fluid in the viscous drive could drain into its bearing assembly and contaminate the bearing lubricant.
Do not remove the water pump pulley bolts at this time..
Remove accessory drive belt as follows: The drive belt is equipped with a spring loaded automatic tensioner Belt Tensioner - 3.9L V-6 or 5.2/5.9L V-8 LDC-Gas Engines Belt Tensioner - 5.9L HDC-Gas Engine
3.9L V-6 or 5.2/5.9L V-8 LDC-Gas Engines: Relax the tension from the belt by rotating the tensioner clockwise (as viewed from front) Belt Tensioner - 3.9L V-6 or 5.2/5.9L V-8 LDC-Gas Engines When all belt tension has been relaxed, remove accessory drive belt.
5.9L HDC-Gas Engine: Relax the tension from the belt by rotating the tensioner counterclockwise (as viewed from front) Belt Tensioner - 5.9L HDC-Gas Engine When all belt tension has been relaxed, remove accessory drive belt.
Remove the four water pump pulley-to-water pump hub bolts Fan Blade and Viscous Fan Drive - Typical and remove pulley from vehicle.
Remove the lower radiator hose and heater hose from water pump.
Loosen heater hose coolant return tube mounting bolt Coolant Return Tube - 3.9L V-6 or 5.2/5.9L V-8 LDC-Gas Engines Coolant Return Tube - 5.9L HDC-Gas Engine and remove tube from water pump. Discard the old tube O-ring
Remove the seven water pump mounting bolts Water Pump Bolts - 3.9L V-6 or 5.2/5.9L V-8 Gas Engines - Typical .
Loosen the clamp at the water pump end of bypass hose Fan Blade and Viscous Fan Drive - Typical Slip the bypass hose from the water pump while removing pump from vehicle. Do not remove the clamp from the bypass hose.
Discard old gasket
CAUTION: Do not pry the water pump at timing chain case/cover. The machined surfaces may be damaged resulting in leaks.

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: mike_vango] #364555
07/02/09 06:50 PM
07/02/09 06:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,543
chicagoland,usa
B
buildanother Offline
I Live Here
buildanother  Offline
I Live Here
B

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,543
chicagoland,usa
You should also be able to tell by the replacement pump what you have as far as left or right hand. I think it will be right hand also.

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: buildanother] #364556
07/02/09 07:02 PM
07/02/09 07:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,910
Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel Offline
Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,910
Rio Linda, CA

If the fan and fan drive are reverse rotation they should be clearly marked REVERSE, apparently both forward and reverse were used in the same year depending on accessories and serpentine belt pulley arrangement.


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: buildanother] #364557
07/02/09 07:04 PM
07/02/09 07:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,080
Niles , Ohio
T
therocks Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks  Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,080
Niles , Ohio
Its right hand threads.Ive removed hundreds and they are right.Ford is one of the few that has Lhand.I use the air chisel method.It works and you just have to get it to barely move and they spin right off.A regular chisel will work if you have it off.Just have someone hold the impeler part so it cant move get it on a flat and give the chisel a smack with a hammer.It works everytime.Rocky


Chrysler Firepower
Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: therocks] #364558
07/02/09 10:17 PM
07/02/09 10:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,537
PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA
superwrench Offline
master
superwrench  Offline
master

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,537
PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA
I think the only left hand thread fan clutch hub is used on the Cummins Diesels.
I know my '92 is left hand thread for sure.

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: superwrench] #364559
07/02/09 10:23 PM
07/02/09 10:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,970
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,970
Grand Prairie,Texas
I use the punch and hammer method while the pump is on the car both to remove and install.

Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: superwrench] #364560
07/02/09 10:24 PM
07/02/09 10:24 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 15,487
Florida
S
scratchnfotraction Offline
I Live Here
scratchnfotraction  Offline
I Live Here
S

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 15,487
Florida
may be it was right hand thred

been a while,93 Dak 5.2,seems that I figured it out by looking at the new pump and it was revers rotation on the pump from the way the serp belt run

like I said it been a while on that one


Re: removing fan/clutch from waterpump on 97 5.9 van [Re: scratchnfotraction] #364561
07/02/09 10:48 PM
07/02/09 10:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
M
MoparforLife Offline
Too Many Posts
MoparforLife  Offline
Too Many Posts
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
Quote:

may be it was right hand thred

been a while,93 Dak 5.2,seems that I figured it out by looking at the new pump and it was revers rotation on the pump from the way the serp belt run

like I said it been a while on that one





my 97 5.2 is.


Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks. But: Don't fix it, if it Works!






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1