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Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #363880
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I've got one for a B motor with the window in it, don't know what brand it is, but it works good!


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Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: Slingshot383] #363881
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I would suggest either Indy's or Andy's plates for a roller cam engine.AS for quality machined verses cast,Andy's gets a I don't know the cost difference

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: B G Racing] #363882
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Sounds like you need a price list from AR Engineering? That way you'll have the good stuff for the special customers.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: cudabunch] #363883
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I cant see why you want one cut when you can buy one from Andy or Indy.I have the Indy one and it works great, no leaks.




If it starts leaking what are you gonna do, pull the heads? If you mill the sides like BG said then that would be ok, but it seems like it would need a huge amount of RTV doing it that way.

Mine is not setup for checking the lifters though, I never thought of that.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: AndyF] #363884
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Sounds like you need a price list from AR Engineering? That way you'll have the good stuff for the special customers.


We have used some of you stuff that we have gotten from other vendors and like the quality of your work.We would be interested in being a WD if you offer such a program.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: ProSport] #363885
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I cant see why you want one cut when you can buy one from Andy or Indy.I have the Indy one and it works great, no leaks.




If it starts leaking what are you gonna do, pull the heads? If you mill the sides like BG said then that would be ok, but it seems like it would need a huge amount of RTV doing it that way.

Mine is not setup for checking the lifters though, I never thought of that.




If you do get a leak on the solid one,all you have to do is to slide it foward and clean it up and reseal.You dont have to remove the heads.The one that Andy and Indy has is so easy to check on inside its crazy to use anything else.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: cudabunch] #363886
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Milling the lower edge of the champher does not increase the gap at the top that meets the head,use the same bead of silicone and just add an extra dab at the 4 corners.We do this to all Indy covers,even the two piece with o problems or leaks.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: B G Racing] #363887
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Milling the lower edge of the champher does not increase the gap at the top that meets the head,use the same bead of silicone and just add an extra dab at the 4 corners.We do this to all Indy covers,even the two piece with o problems or leaks.




BG makes good points. Every time I mocked up the Indy Tray the Beveled part liked a mile from touching the heads any way... I have always had to build up a large thick layer of sealer for it to work.

I picked up My cover used, and always figured some one may have milled it or something....
Pretty much fit like OJ's Glove LOL


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Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: B G Racing] #363888
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Milling the lower edge of the champher does not increase the gap at the top that meets the head,use the same bead of silicone and just add an extra dab at the 4 corners.We do this to all Indy covers,even the two piece with o problems or leaks.


Bob, does this pic help explain your method? i.e. cut at the vertical black line.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: 440Jim] #363889
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Bob, did mine while I had my engine there and I have no problems with sealing it. Unfortunatley I had to remove the cover completely once since then and it went back together no problem with no leaks.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: RonP] #363890
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my engine builder arc got me one and cut it, just have to go see it and get it when i pick up my 63 plymouth,
just redid my suspension over and let me say he does some serious work.

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Congrats on the cut. What suspension did you get?

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: cudabunch] #363892
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went with a chassis engineering triple adjustable outlaw ladder bar with strange double adjustable coil overs with hypercoil.
new motor is going in very soon so the cal tracs came out.
i want to see the difference from cal tracs to ladder bars in this car.

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Sounds great and hope it works well.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: 440Jim] #363894
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Milling the lower edge of the champher does not increase the gap at the top that meets the head,use the same bead of silicone and just add an extra dab at the 4 corners.We do this to all Indy covers,even the two piece with o problems or leaks.


Bob, does this pic help explain your method? i.e. cut at the vertical black line.


An can be done very cheaply.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: AndyF] #363895
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Andy:

Do you think you will have a "B" block version?

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Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: AndyF] #363896
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You can get those billet valley plates from Mancini Racing, Hughes Engines, etc. Part number is AR182. They come with a gasket but they are also machined for an o-ring if you want to go that way. RB only though. There isn't a version for the B motor.




And Hemi's

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Is there anything "wrong" with the INDY version with the removable center? I just ordered one for my new 448 this morning.... Seems like everyone is trying to run something different for some reason? This BB crap is all new to me...

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: RyanJ] #363898
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Is there anything "wrong" with the INDY version with the removable center? I just ordered one for my new 448 this morning.... Seems like everyone is trying to run something different for some reason? This BB crap is all new to me...




Ryan, nothing wrong at all. The removeable center is nice, but we milled the edges on mine just incase the whole thing needed removed. As luck would have it I had an issue that required me to remove the whole cover because the opening wasn't enough for what I needed to do. Using BG's method made it easy to pull the whole cover up out.

Re: can anyone cut me a indy valley cover in half? [Re: RonP] #363899
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Why not just sell the Indy piece and buy a Bulldog one from Muscle Motors? I think they have all the old stock of them.

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