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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.

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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.

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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.

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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.

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Nah, its just for clearance so you don't have to your headers.

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Looking at your application listed above , 383 , what's the header tube size ?

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I have a reman 360 truck in my 440.Cost almost as much 10 years ago as the new 440 source one my kid put in his 413.I have to remove the header on mine to R&R because of the scattershield and 2 inch TTIs.Rocky

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My headers are not on yet and I don't want to the tubes because of a starter

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Do you have a flywheel or flex plate?

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In my 70 Charger RT 4speed car,Lakewood scattershield and I am running the ceramic coated Hooker Super Comp 1 7/8 headers and a parts store mini starter.
I did not have to ding or alter my headers at all when I installed them and they have excellent clearance near the starter....but if I had to install the starter with the headers on it would not be possible.

I hope my starter works when I go to fire it up!

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Again, picking a starter is not the hard part, I was just looking for one that was able to clear headers without Thanks Blakcharger440

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I went to the junkyard and got one off a dakota for $25 and it works awesome on my 440...cheap and easy.

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same here. I have changed many over by using junkyard minis from 90 up V6 nd V8 Dodge Dakota or full sized Dodge pichps. Used 'em on everything from Small blocks to Hemi's no problems other than a little clearancing on some of the big blocks.

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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.

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Good luck , I tried a mini starter on a 383 with the 143 tooth bellhousing and no name , i think they were black jack , 1 3/4 " headers and there was no way it was going to fit , I had to hammer on the one tube to clear the std gear reduction starter as it was right up hard against the header . Most headers designs are a compromise to fit in the chassis , sometimes multiple , and the 2 different deck heights along with the different trans configurations .

oh , what exact header are you using ???

I think you need to go back to the other thread and see the post by the guy that that said the snout on his robbmc starter was a little oversize to fit in his snout register for whatever reason , this may be your issue as the robbmc starter may be your ONLY choice for a mini on a low deck with headers .

Somewhat unrelated but you'll get the idea of what you are up against with a low deck. I had to dimple the headpipe on my 69 383, 4speed Dart using stock manifolds and a mini starter because the starter is just too close to the headpipe. and this is with the 130 tooth flywheel setup, if it was the 143 tooth setup it would have been hard against the pipe and required a larger application of the

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All you guys telling this member what you are using on your 440 , unless its a low deck stroked to 440 cubes , is TOTALLY USELESS INFORMATION , headers and minis fit fine on RB blocks , completely DIFFERENT STORY on a low deck , been there, smashed the tubes to prove it .

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All you guys telling this member what you are using on your 440 , unless its a low deck stroked to 440 cubes , is TOTALLY USELESS INFORMATION , headers and minis fit fine on RB blocks , completely DIFFERENT STORY on a low deck , been there, smashed the tubes to prove it .

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And with that said, my combo is a 450" B block, TTI 1-3/4" headers, 130T flywheel, and Robb starter. No fitment issues whatsoever. I didn't have to clearance anything.

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For whatever reason, the Robb starter did not engage my flywheel. Trust me, Robb and I both TRIED to make it work. I love the design. Cleared headers perfectly. I need the next best header clearing mini starter available. And BTW, Robb is

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I know 3 guys running minis with headers on B blocks.None had a problem.Mine is tight because of the 143 tooth wheel and scattershield.Junk yard starter I think not.Its too hard to change a probally 8 year old starter to take a chance.Ill pay for a new one.Rocky

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All you guys telling this member what you are using on your 440 , unless its a low deck stroked to 440 cubes , is TOTALLY USELESS INFORMATION , headers and minis fit fine on RB blocks , completely DIFFERENT STORY on a low deck , been there, smashed the tubes to prove it .

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And with that said, my combo is a 450" B block, TTI 1-3/4" headers, 130T flywheel, and Robb starter. No fitment issues whatsoever. I didn't have to clearance anything.

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I know 3 guys running minis with headers on B blocks.None had a problem.Mine is tight because of the 143 tooth wheel and scattershield.Junk yard starter I think not.Its too hard to change a probally 8 year old starter to take a chance.Ill pay for a new one.Rocky

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I know 3 guys running minis with headers on B blocks.None had a problem.Mine is tight because of the 143 tooth wheel and scattershield.Junk yard starter I think not.Its too hard to change a probally 8 year old starter to take a chance.Ill pay for a new one.Rocky

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You need to also what headers they are using and is it the same header you are using, which I can't see thru my crystal ball .

Just trying to help you help yourself.

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Honestly, tired of repeating myself! One more time;

71 Cuda 383 auto 727 tranny. Hooker Headers #5903HKR. 1 1/16" from starter mounting surface to surface of ring gear. Original OEM starter worked fine, but headers did not clear. Had issues with Robb Mc mini. Looking for an alternative mini that will clear without the headers! What else?

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71 Cuda 383 auto 727 tranny. Hooker Headers #5903HKR. 1 1/16" from starter mounting surface to surface of ring gear. Original OEM starter worked fine, but headers did not clear. Had issues with Robb Mc mini. Looking for an alternative mini that will clear without the headers! What else?

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Ok , I remember that header callout now, my bad .

You may be out of luck , if you can't get the Robbmc to work and you can't get a std gear reduction starter to fit without a mini is more than likely going to fit either.

I've been there, a header that hit the gear reduction starter and I had to the header tube to get that one in there, I would have had to just about collapse the tube to half its diameter to get a mini in there and it still would have been too close to not cause heat issues later on with the starter. I also was unable to get the mini in the starter hole without unbolting the header from the engine. TTi's are designed to work around a mini but I think even they are limited to a certian tube size if I remember right.

On a plus note I was able to get a mini on a low deck with now discontinued Hedmans with 1 7/8 tubes bolted to a lakewood using a 130 tooth flywheel .

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Just go gat a reman for a 360 ram like 90s.Then if it dosent work take it back.We have a mini with stick in a 360 with Hooker Scs and it fits.I dont care for Hookers.Rocky

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So I could buy a starter for.....say a 93 Dodge truck with a 360, (mini starter?) and it will work on my 69 Coronet RT stock exhaust manifolds 440/auto? No problems??
I hope Im not hi-jacking???

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I run a Summit Starter on my Magnum motor. Deals with the high temps pretty good, and the header tubes are right next to it even.

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OK, returned the starter to Robb, who in turn gave me a full refund . He installed it on his partners Dodge truck and said it work everytime . I installed the Power Master 9513 on my Cuda and it worked fine . Strange, but true . Anyway, Robb is a man of his word, and we are all happy again .

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