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OK Which Mini Starter? #362809
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Other than Robb's Performance, next best mini for header clearance. Hooker Headers #5903HKR 71 Cuda 383 auto.


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Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: CHRGR69] #362811
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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.

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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.




Nah, its just for clearance so you don't have to your headers.


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Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: CHRGR69] #362813
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Late model stock starter. Buy new from a dealer or get it used from a junk yard.

Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: Gusteve] #362814
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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.




what engine do you have ?

Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: CHRGR69] #362815
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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.




Nah, its just for clearance so you don't have to your headers.




Looking at your application listed above , 383 , what's the header tube size ?

Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: JohnRR] #362816
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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.




Nah, its just for clearance so you don't have to your headers.




Looking at your application listed above , 383 , what's the header tube size ?




I believe 1 7/8" tube size with 3" collectors.


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Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: JohnRR] #362817
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I have a reman 360 truck in my 440.Cost almost as much 10 years ago as the new 440 source one my kid put in his 413.I have to remove the header on mine to R&R because of the scattershield and 2 inch TTIs.Rocky


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I have a reman 360 truck in my 440.Cost almost as much 10 years ago as the new 440 source one my kid put in his 413.I have to remove the header on mine to R&R because of the scattershield and 2 inch TTIs.Rocky




My headers are not on yet and I don't want to the tubes because of a starter


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Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: CHRGR69] #362819
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Do you have a flywheel or flex plate?


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Do you have a flywheel or flex plate?




Flywheel


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Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: CHRGR69] #362821
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In my 70 Charger RT 4speed car,Lakewood scattershield and I am running the ceramic coated Hooker Super Comp 1 7/8 headers and a parts store mini starter.
I did not have to ding or alter my headers at all when I installed them and they have excellent clearance near the starter....but if I had to install the starter with the headers on it would not be possible.

I hope my starter works when I go to fire it up!

Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: CHRGR69] #362822
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I went to the junkyard and got one off a dakota for $25 and it works awesome on my 440...cheap and easy.

Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: Blakcharger440] #362823
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In my 70 Charger RT 4speed car,Lakewood scattershield and I am running the ceramic coated Hooker Super Comp 1 7/8 headers and a parts store mini starter.
I did not have to ding or alter my headers at all when I installed them and they have excellent clearance near the starter....but if I had to install the starter with the headers on it would not be possible.

I hope my starter works when I go to fire it up!




Again, picking a starter is not the hard part, I was just looking for one that was able to clear headers without Thanks Blakcharger440


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Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: cornucopia] #362824
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I went to the junkyard and got one off a dakota for $25 and it works awesome on my 440...cheap and easy.



same here. I have changed many over by using junkyard minis from 90 up V6 nd V8 Dodge Dakota or full sized Dodge pichps. Used 'em on everything from Small blocks to Hemi's no problems other than a little clearancing on some of the big blocks.

Re: OK Which Mini Starter? [Re: CHRGR69] #362825
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I went with 440 source. Bolted in, fired right up, no hassles except I STILL had to drop the headers to install it. I thought the whole point of a mini-starter was not having to do that.




Nah, its just for clearance so you don't have to your headers.




Looking at your application listed above , 383 , what's the header tube size ?




I believe 1 7/8" tube size with 3" collectors.




Good luck , I tried a mini starter on a 383 with the 143 tooth bellhousing and no name , i think they were black jack , 1 3/4 " headers and there was no way it was going to fit , I had to hammer on the one tube to clear the std gear reduction starter as it was right up hard against the header . Most headers designs are a compromise to fit in the chassis , sometimes multiple , and the 2 different deck heights along with the different trans configurations .

oh , what exact header are you using ???

I think you need to go back to the other thread and see the post by the guy that that said the snout on his robbmc starter was a little oversize to fit in his snout register for whatever reason , this may be your issue as the robbmc starter may be your ONLY choice for a mini on a low deck with headers .

Somewhat unrelated but you'll get the idea of what you are up against with a low deck. I had to dimple the headpipe on my 69 383, 4speed Dart using stock manifolds and a mini starter because the starter is just too close to the headpipe. and this is with the 130 tooth flywheel setup, if it was the 143 tooth setup it would have been hard against the pipe and required a larger application of the

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Do you have a flywheel or flex plate?




Flywheel




what size ? the correct for your car 130 tooth on the alum bellhousing or a 143 tooth in a lakewood blowsheild or the 69 cast iron bell ???

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All you guys telling this member what you are using on your 440 , unless its a low deck stroked to 440 cubes , is TOTALLY USELESS INFORMATION , headers and minis fit fine on RB blocks , completely DIFFERENT STORY on a low deck , been there, smashed the tubes to prove it .

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All you guys telling this member what you are using on your 440 , unless its a low deck stroked to 440 cubes , is TOTALLY USELESS INFORMATION , headers and minis fit fine on RB blocks , completely DIFFERENT STORY on a low deck , been there, smashed the tubes to prove it .




And with that said, my combo is a 450" B block, TTI 1-3/4" headers, 130T flywheel, and Robb starter. No fitment issues whatsoever. I didn't have to clearance anything.

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