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Radiator clamp ? #357894
06/25/09 06:36 PM
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Thinking about putting the Corbin style radiator clamps on my car. I know the alligator style are the better way to go. Looking for Pros and Cons. Thanks in advance.
Rob

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Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: yellow sixpack] #357895
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I asked the same question a while back and was told by a few people that the factory clamps are not 100% trustworthy. Some claimed to have issues with them weeping or worst case the hose popping off altogether.

I have never used them so I can't say anything good or bad, but I do think they are a nice finishing touch to a restored car.

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: Neil] #357896
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Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: yellow sixpack] #357897
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Thinking about putting the Corbin style radiator clamps on my car. I know the alligator style are the better way to go. Looking for Pros and Cons. Thanks in advance.
Rob




When I bought my new 69 RR, the first thing I did was clean off all those silly grease pencel marks. The second was put on proper radiator clamps in place of the flimsy factory jobs.

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: 474218] #357898
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Funny, the only clamps I run are the OE style corbin clamps.
I also use new hoses , never had one leak or pop off in 20 plus years

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: yellow sixpack] #357899
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I put them on my restored engine compartment for the first time since probably 1971 . All worked well except the upper radiator kept leaking. I ended up using a worm type there..


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Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: yellow sixpack] #357900
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I always use the factory clamps but have noticed they are different. I can't put my finger on it but I think the guage is a hair thinner. I have had leak problems in the last 2 years I have never had before. I had a lower hose blow right off the rad outlet with an NOS hose. Another problem is the hoses (all the hoses) are a thinner wall - The I.D. is right but the thinner wall thickness makes for a smaller O.D. which does not give the clamp enough meat to bite around. I put an original clamp on that lower hose and all is good. I think we have to start using clamps 1 size smaller than normal to compensate for the reduction in hose O.D. and for the (seemingly) reduced tension/guage - whatever the problem is with these new clamps. I had the heater hoses and the by-pass hose (smallblock) leak with these newer hoses/clamps. And- if I don't have NOS I use the best hoses I can get with the same issues.

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I always use the factory clamps but have noticed they are different. I can't put my finger on it but I think the guage is a hair thinner. I have had leak problems in the last 2 years I have never had before. I had a lower hose blow right off the rad outlet with an NOS hose. Another problem is the hoses (all the hoses) are a thinner wall - The I.D. is right but the thinner wall thickness makes for a smaller O.D. which does not give the clamp enough meat to bite around. I put an original clamp on that lower hose and all is good. I think we have to start using clamps 1 size smaller than normal to compensate for the reduction in hose O.D. and for the (seemingly) reduced tension/guage - whatever the problem is with these new clamps. I had the heater hoses and the by-pass hose (smallblock) leak with these newer hoses/clamps. And- if I don't have NOS I use the best hoses I can get with the same issues.




That's what I noticed too. Don't through any original clamps away just replate or paint them. I've (sometimes)found that a leaking clamp can be stopped by shifting the clamp on the hose.

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: FJ5_Fish] #357902
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I always use the factory clamps but have noticed they are different. I can't put my finger on it but I think the guage is a hair thinner. I have had leak problems in the last 2 years I have never had before. I had a lower hose blow right off the rad outlet with an NOS hose. Another problem is the hoses (all the hoses) are a thinner wall - The I.D. is right but the thinner wall thickness makes for a smaller O.D. which does not give the clamp enough meat to bite around. I put an original clamp on that lower hose and all is good. I think we have to start using clamps 1 size smaller than normal to compensate for the reduction in hose O.D. and for the (seemingly) reduced tension/guage - whatever the problem is with these new clamps. I had the heater hoses and the by-pass hose (smallblock) leak with these newer hoses/clamps. And- if I don't have NOS I use the best hoses I can get with the same issues.










I been using the repro clamp kits, original corbin clamps, NOS, or reconditioned,......newer hoses, even repro hoses are thinner, hence the clamps won't seal properly,....squeezeing the clamp to be "tighter" dosen't work, it only causes the clamp to "egg" in shape, and thus squeezes on the sides only, causing a leak,....I've found that purchaseing the clamps directly thru the manufacturers, I can purchase them in 1/16-1/8 inch increments to the sizes I really need for a tight fit,.....

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: DAYCLONA] #357903
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I have installed a ton of these clamps over the years. They are very reliable, IF, you install them properly.

Couple of things to consider...

The primary area of problem with these are two fold. You have to install them properly. DON'T overextend them, and try not to take them repeatedly on and off. Also, use the proper pliers for the job. If you use a pair of Channellocks, you are probably going to ruin the clamp.

Also make sure that the pipe the hose goes over is not distorted. Most people have problems with the connection at the firewall to the heater core. The pipes are easily damaged if a pair of pliers is used to remove the hose. The pipe then becomes distorted and the clamp has a hard time sealing. Make a small slice in the hose and gently twist the hose off. Then if you need to reattach the hose, cut it back an inch or so to get rid of the slice and expose fresh area of the hose. Doing it this way ensures the pipe will still be nice and round.

One nice thing about spring style clamps(both Corbin and strap style) is that they are self compensating. Worm style clamps cannot accomodate this, and you will often see some seepage from hoses during the colder months and the need to retighten the worm gear clamp. The spring sytle clamps are able to compensate for this.

MB

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: HPMike] #357904
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I am going to try them. Whats the worst that could happen one pops off and sprays red hot green coolant all over me. Wouldnt be the first time.


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Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: yellow sixpack] #357905
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Anybody using 1 corbin and 1 worm style clamp
on the small block by-pass hose? I'm putting
together a '71-340 and I recall one clamp of
each type used, the worm clamp is painted
engine color & I'm thinking it's on the intake
end of the hose.
Comment???

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: demonH1B] #357906
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Same as Mike said,any problem I ever had was with the hose,not the clamp.

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: 62maxwgn] #357907
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I can understand the clamps not having the same clamping pressure with the smaller OD hoses. This causes seepage. I have been putting a small amount of silacone sealer on the bottom side of lip on the thermastat housing, radiator inlet and outlet ends and at the bottom of the water
pump before slipping hoses on and clamping them. I install the clamps on the bottom side on the lip
at all those location. Heater hose nipples as well. Seems to work.

logan426

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: DAYCLONA] #357908
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I always use the factory clamps but have noticed they are different. I can't put my finger on it but I think the guage is a hair thinner. I have had leak problems in the last 2 years I have never had before. I had a lower hose blow right off the rad outlet with an NOS hose. Another problem is the hoses (all the hoses) are a thinner wall - The I.D. is right but the thinner wall thickness makes for a smaller O.D. which does not give the clamp enough meat to bite around. I put an original clamp on that lower hose and all is good. I think we have to start using clamps 1 size smaller than normal to compensate for the reduction in hose O.D. and for the (seemingly) reduced tension/guage - whatever the problem is with these new clamps. I had the heater hoses and the by-pass hose (smallblock) leak with these newer hoses/clamps. And- if I don't have NOS I use the best hoses I can get with the same issues.










I been using the repro clamp kits, original corbin clamps, NOS, or reconditioned,......newer hoses, even repro hoses are thinner, hence the clamps won't seal properly,....squeezeing the clamp to be "tighter" dosen't work, it only causes the clamp to "egg" in shape, and thus squeezes on the sides only, causing a leak,....I've found that purchaseing the clamps directly thru the manufacturers, I can purchase them in 1/16-1/8 inch increments to the sizes I really need for a tight fit,.....




Mike, where do you order the custom size clamps directly from? What is the correct diameter? I like the spring clamps because they always give constant tension, where the screw type ones they get tightened to a certain point only.

Re: Radiator clamp ? [Re: demonH1B] #357909
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No worm clamps were used by the factory during this era.







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