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1990 dakots 5 speed questions #357679
06/25/09 02:23 PM 06/25/09 02:23 PM
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i want to bolt this trans behind my 318. after some research i found i will need the flywheel from the donor truck, and it uses a different clutch than the 10.5" 833. it uses the same pilot bushing PN as the 833 so i guess bolting it up wont be a problem. does anyone know if a 727/4 speed or 904/3 speed slip yoke will fit this trans?
the 318 is just a stock rebuild w/ 340 cam, windage tray, perf. intake and holley 450 so im not making a ton of HP i think this trans should hold up behind it. what do you think? going in my 47 desoto.
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: 65rbdodge] #357680
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727 is a 3spd auto
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: 76dodgeboy] #357681
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He's asking about a shared slip yoke.

I'd say that if you are grabbing the transmission, flywheel and clutch parts (cores),
go ahead and grab the driveshaft too. That way you KNOW the slip yoke fits.
If you can, figure out the throw of the clutch before tearing it apart. If you are going with mechanical, it will be needed. If you are going hydraulic, you will know when it's right.

Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: RodStRace] #357682
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I know I was just correcting him on the 727

Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: 76dodgeboy] #357683
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I know I was just correcting him on the 727



Dude, he said this " 727/4 speed or 904/3 speed slip yoke "

What he meant was there is one size that fits a 727 torqueflite 3 speed automatic transmission AND a 4 speed manual transmission.
There is another size that fits the 904 automatic 3 speed transmission and a 3 speed manual transmission. Get it?
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: RodStRace] #357684
06/26/09 11:47 AM 06/26/09 11:47 AM
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To complicate matters more, some 3 speed manual trannies share the larger 727/4 speed slip yoke....

I had a '68 Valiant I swapped from a 3 speed manual on the column to a OD four on the floor and didn't have to change the driveshaft at all.
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: RodStRace] #357685
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Oh Didnt know that . Good to know know
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: RodStRace] #357686
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Quote:

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I know I was just correcting him on the 727



Dude, he said this " 727/4 speed or 904/3 speed slip yoke "

What he meant was there is one size that fits a 727 torqueflite 3 speed automatic transmission AND a 4 speed manual transmission.
There is another size that fits the 904 automatic 3 speed transmission and a 3 speed manual transmission. Get it?



yup, thats what i meant. i didn`t check to see if the driveshaft is useable yet. usually they are bent because the pick cars/truck with the forks on the bucket loader. maybe i`ll just get the slip yoke and get a new shaft made if i have to.
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: 65rbdodge] #357687
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To reall mess things up there as a few A833's that use the small 904 style yoke.

In any case, I ran the Dak V6 flywheel on my LA engine when I converted to four speed. So it should work for you.

They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: Supercuda] #357688
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im pretty sure the v6 and 318 magnums are internaly balanced like a LA 318/340 or a 361/383/440/413 the 360s of all vintages are balanced externally and all are balanced differently,,,the V6 and 318 dakota 5 speed fly wheel wil work on your LA 318..but dont do any speed shifting or ram rodding that tranny,,its not an 833...but will be fun in a normaly driven street rod and the O,D will be great,,

if you get the brake/clutch pedal assembly out of the dakota you will se how simple it is to use all the dakota hyd throw out bearing stuff,,the clutch master cylinder mounts to the pedal assembly,,run the line to the bearing and you are done,,,simplest mopar conversion,,ever,,

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Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: rabid scott] #357689
06/30/09 02:58 AM 06/30/09 02:58 AM
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Quote:

To complicate matters more, some 3 speed manual trannies share the larger 727/4 speed slip yoke....

I had a '68 Valiant I swapped from a 3 speed manual on the column to a OD four on the floor and didn't have to change the driveshaft at all.



And while we're complicating matters, remember that some A/F-body 833OD's used the 904 yoke. Go figure!

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Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: 65rbdodge] #357690
07/24/09 07:20 PM 07/24/09 07:20 PM
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the slip yoke is a 904 style and the trans will hold up because is I had a 88 dakot with 4 cyl. 5speed thet I put a mild built 318 behind and beat the crap out of, race shifting 4 grand drops, etc, and you can usethe 833 style clutch parts i did.
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: kams] #357691
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the slip yoke is a 904 style and the trans will hold up because is I had a 88 dakot with 4 cyl. 5speed thet I put a mild built 318 behind and beat the crap out of, race shifting 4 grand drops, etc, and you can usethe 833 style clutch parts i did.


So you are saying that the early 2.5 4cyl has the same bellhousing bolt pattern as a small block?
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: dartracer] #357692
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No it does not. The 3.9 has the same pattern as the Mopar Small Block. The pre 96 2.5L has the 2.2L K car four banger bolt pattern.

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Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: Greg55_99] #357693
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I thought the Dakota 5spd trany and bellhousing was all one piece.
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: dartracer] #357694
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I found an interesting thread this afternoon, but can't find it now. Mentioned all the trans that can be swapped using the Dakota bellhousing, including a (gasp) Toyota Supra trans. It even had a reference to a thread here.

Here's another

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/toyota-5-speed-10418.html?highlight=dakota+transmission+supra
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: RodStRace] #357695
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I had a link at one point in time to a 4X4 website that had a ton of information on manual trans swaps including a lot of details on the supra and dakota transmissions. I will dig for the link and post it up when I find it. As I recall the Supra trans was surprisingly strong for what it came from.
Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: bohmer2] #357696
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Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: Greg55_99] #357697
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so guys I have a 1987 Dakota V6 bell housing and 5 sped trans here, is "THAT" the bellhousing that people want to use? if so what is the going price for one of these??? thanks Ron...

Re: 1990 dakots 5 speed questions [Re: Mopar Ron] #357698
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Thanks Greg, that is exactly the link I was remembering.

Second Ron, I think it is the magnum bellhousing from the gen II dakota's is the one that connects to all the LA, magnum, and even the new hemi small block motors as well as the v-6 magnums.
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