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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO #347942
06/15/09 04:17 PM
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Hi!

I want to know whatys the difference between an original TA air cleaner and the repro air cleaners sold by Ben Snobar.

Pics would be great. I want to determine if the one I bought is original or repro.

Thanks

Domingo

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: domingo] #347943
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I don't know the answer, but I are you asking about the lid or the base? Or both?

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: autoxcuda] #347944
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count the spowelds where the base joins the outer ring and pm me

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: autoxcuda] #347945
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both.

Thing is, I bought a TA air cleaner for 1k

I asked about the condition, if it had any pitting etc, and I was tld it was used but in great shape and it had been repainted, it didnt come with the gasket.

Given the price was 1k with no gasket, and repros are like 800 new I assumed it was original....

I asked for a pic and the pic was very small...

and now I got it it pretty much looks like the whole thing is a repro....

So im trying to confirm if what I have is a repro or not....

I think the originals both the lids and the bases have a rolled lip on the outer edges....this one is just cut by the stamping tooling, not rolled. Am I right here or not?

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: domingo] #347946
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20 SPOT WELDS.

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: domingo] #347947
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20 SPOT WELDS.


repro

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: mccannix] #347948
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Was the seller in FL?

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: floyd] #347949
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I can take pics of my repo if you still need pics
The lid is the wide lip one and the base from Ben Snowbar as well.
I got one that he had with a scratch or dent 2-3 years ago.
I also see the seals with the cuts on rear and sides.
Does the cuts of the seal go on the passenger side?
And is the tape for it repoped?
Yes i have now high jacked ya thread
If ya need pics let me know.


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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: floyd] #347950
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Was the seller in FL?




Beat me to it Bruce. That was my question as well. How they are allowed to sell on this site (under multiple aliases as well) I don't understand.

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: TWS] #347951
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What would an original restored to mint ocndition with repro seal go for?
Jules

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #347952
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What would an original restored to mint ocndition with repro seal go for?
Jules




Don't want to know. The original one that was supposed to come with my car was burnt up in barn fire before I could get it.



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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: TWS] #347953
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Quote:

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Was the seller in FL?




Beat me to it Bruce. That was my question as well. How they are allowed to sell on this site (under multiple aliases as well) I don't understand.




This FL seller sells repro stuff on ebay as new continually??

Could you share the name please.

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: domingo] #347954
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Domingo, here's a pic of my unrestored original. I'll try to take pics of the underside this weekend. I'll post the lid, too.

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: domingo] #347955
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here's the lid. Someone must've cut out a piece of the lip to clear an ac compressor.

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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: domingo] #347956
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Another top view. Notice how the lip is beveled at an angle & not a 90 degree bend.

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Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: Triggerfish] #347957
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here's the lid. Someone must've cut out a piece of the lip to clear an ac compressor.




Looks like they cut it to clear the 2 speed wiper motor.

logan426

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: MLR426] #347958
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Looks like they cut it to clear the 2 speed wiper motor.




No, The lid would clear the 2 speed wiper motor without any problems. No need to notch it for that. Most AAR & TA came with 2 speed wipers.

Tav

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: autoxcuda] #347959
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This FL seller sells repro stuff on ebay as new continually??

Could you share the name please.




Yes, they do. It's G&D muscle car parts, or something like that. It stands for Glen and Dana I think. They're around Jacksonville somewhere. I'm not sure why anyone would hesitate to post their name. I recently found that they're members of moparts, but they're still ripping us all off. They deserve the bad reputation.

I bought my reproduction AAR air cleaner from them on Ebay. They had advertised it as fully restored original. I confronted them about it and they offered to take it back if I paid shipping. They said they'd refund my money after they got the part, but how could I trust them to do that after they LIED to me the first time! I kept the part.

I looked at several of their other auctions since then. They're definitely con artists. I will NEVER purchase from them again.

They are the only vendor that's ever ripped me off.

Tav

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: cataclysm80] #347960
06/16/09 10:26 AM
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Well, yes....it was G&D...how you guys came to that conclusion I really dont know....I wanted to keep that info confidential until I knew the outcome of this whole thing.

I taked with Dana and he said he would work out a solution because I am also buyng a 440 engine from him so I can put it in a car Im importing to Peru and its sitting in Miami right now with a 318 between its fenders and I want to put a 440 in it b4 I import it....And these guys are near Miami so that why I considered them for the engine and components...

Their prices are usually higher than others Im not sure why, but their location is what makes me want to use em for such a heavy item as a 440 engine.

He said he would not refund the excess he charged me for the air cleaner (actually it was her girlfriend amanda who sold it to me) but he could throw some extra stuff on the 440 he is putting together for me (I think the easier and proper way to get out of this is just reimburse the difference in price that I was charged given I could have gotten a brand new COMPLETE unit for ben for just 840)...but oh well hope he makes things right....you know, I have several more cars to ship and also ship all the time from Miami so it wouldnt be smart not to make things right...

I bought a HEMI RR from Dana a couple years ago and know him and his dad personally and handed him the money cash in his hands...thats why I was pretty loose and didnt ask many questions when I bought that air cleaner. Given it was INCOMPLETE and priced higher than a new repro at 1k, I assumed it was original... Im sure it was his GFs mistake not Dana's...This hobby is so small that you cant really go around screwing people specially when its not just a hobby for you, but when you actually make a living out if it...just as it is real easy to build a good reputation in no time its real easy to send it down the drain. Oh well....Il post how it goes later on here...I'm pretty sure Dana will make it right.

Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ORIGINAL TA AIR CLEANER AND REPRO [Re: domingo] #347961
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