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Other than the 3 holes in the spokes for the horn retainer, is the 69 and 70 b body the same? Color, grain, size etc.

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everything but the color

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I have an almost NOS woodgrain with a '69 serial # and 3 factory holes. I know it was not re-drilled.

The plastic color varied from batch to batch. So it's a reasonable rule of thumb to say the color is lighter in '70. But there are a number of exceptions.

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I have an almost NOS wood grain with a '69 serial # and 3 factory holes. I know it was not re-drilled.

The plastic color varied from batch to batch. So it's a reasonable rule of thumb to say the color is lighter in '70. But there are a number of exceptions.




The part number was the same from year to year but the orientation of the numbers stamped on the spokes varied though. Here is an example of a 1970 wheel. I'll post more pictures of other stampings.


You are correct about the variation in colors from batch to batch. There was no one color or value of color that was specific for any one year.


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Another wheel (68 or 69) with the same part number.


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Same part number but oriented differently on another 68 or 69 wheel.


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I have an almost NOS wood grain with a '69 serial # and 3 factory holes. I know it was not re-drilled.

The plastic color varied from batch to batch. So it's a reasonable rule of thumb to say the color is lighter in '70. But there are a number of exceptions.




The part number was the same from year to year but the orientation of the numbers stamped on the spokes varied though. Here is an example of a 1970 wheel. I'll post more pictures of other stampings.




No, The part # was not the same for all years. Here is a pic of a true 1970 spoke with the #2996701 part #.





You are correct about the variation in colors from batch to batch. There was no one color or value of color that was specific for any one year.




I disagree. 68-69 wheels have a dark woodgrain color and 1970 wheels have a lighter woodgrain.
Here are the 3 variations of wheels:
#2925134 w/no holes 1968 to mid 69 (dark woodgrain)
#2925134 w/holes late 1969 (dark woodgrain)
#2996701 w/holes all 1970 (lighter woodgrain)

As a sidenote, I have yet to see a repro or restored wheel that has the correct look AND texture that you can see and FEEL.

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I disagree. 68-69 wheels have a dark woodgrain color and 1970 wheels have a lighter woodgrain.
Here are the 3 variations of wheels:
#2925134 w/no holes 1968 to mid 69 (dark woodgrain)
#2925134 w/holes late 1969 (dark woodgrain)
#2996701 w/holes all 1970 (lighter woodgrain)

As a sidenote, I have yet to see a repro or restored wheel that has the correct look AND texture that you can see and FEEL.





w the disagree; heres my 70 NOS wheel


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I have an almost NOS wood grain with a '69 serial # and 3 factory holes. I know it was not re-drilled.

The plastic color varied from batch to batch. So it's a reasonable rule of thumb to say the color is lighter in '70. But there are a number of exceptions.




The part number was the same from year to year but the orientation of the numbers stamped on the spokes varied though. Here is an example of a 1970 wheel. I'll post more pictures of other stampings.




No, The part # was not the same for all years. Here is a pic of a true 1970 spoke with the #2996701 part #.





You are correct about the variation in colors from batch to batch. There was no one color or value of color that was specific for any one year.




I disagree. 68-69 wheels have a dark woodgrain color and 1970 wheels have a lighter woodgrain.
Here are the 3 variations of wheels:
#2925134 w/no holes 1968 to mid 69 (dark woodgrain)
#2925134 w/holes late 1969 (dark woodgrain)
#2996701 w/holes all 1970 (lighter woodgrain)

As a sidenote, I have yet to see a repro or restored wheel that has the correct look AND texture that you can see and FEEL.





I agree with you that the 2925134's are darker than the 2996701's but I think when you're referring to the 2925134's with holes being late 1969, I tend to think they were actually for early 1970 cars since the holes were for the special plastic adapter that was to fill in the gap on the larger diameter steering column due to the ignition and locking introduced in 1970 and later models.

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Here's the darker 69


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And the 69 part number


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The lighter 70


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And the 70 part number


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I just checked mine , it's a late 69 wheel , 134 part number with the holes and dark woodgrain .

I'll trade it for a nice restored wheel and $$$$.


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I think when you're referring to the 2925134's with holes being late 1969, I tend to think they were actually for early 1970 cars since the holes were for the special plastic adapter that was to fill in the gap on the larger diameter steering column due to the ignition and locking introduced in 1970 and later models.





I would disagree with that statement. I am aware that the holes were for the column adapter. I have never seen a #134 wheel with the darker woodgrain on an early 70 model car. I have never seen a #134 wheel with the lighter woodgrain. If you were to pull the horn assembly off a late 69 car I'll bet you see the spoke holes under it.

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There was a root beer brown '70 GTX pilot car with a woodgrain wheel in Vail Colorado in April '69. The car is shown in various publications in the Fall (aug-sept) of '69. Vail closes in April and opens about Thanksgiving. The car is also shown in the '70 dealer filmstrip and '70 dealer commercial-both again at Vail with snow and skiers reinforcing that it is April '69. All those sources show the larger steering column with the improper trim ring.

A reasonable person would guess that sometime from when the pilot car was built and when production was started in the fall, the steering wheel issues were addressed.

The woodgrain wheel supplier must have been notified that the '70 cars would have a need for a modified wheel. Production of the wheel was probably modified sometime in '69.

So were some '69 wheels put on early '70 cars? Probably some '69 wheels were at the plant when the '70s went down the line. All the 3 hole wheels I've seen have the part # at 90 degrees to the early '69 wheels.

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I think when you're referring to the 2925134's with holes being late 1969, I tend to think they were actually for early 1970 cars since the holes were for the special plastic adapter that was to fill in the gap on the larger diameter steering column due to the ignition and locking introduced in 1970 and later models.





I would disagree with that statement. I am aware that the holes were for the column adapter. I have never seen a #134 wheel with the darker woodgrain on an early 70 model car. I have never seen a #134 wheel with the lighter woodgrain. If you were to pull the horn assembly off a late 69 car I'll bet you see the spoke holes under it.




What would be the point of the holes on a 69? Just because you've never seen one with your own eyes does not make it fact. I would think it's very possible for the 134's to be on either year with it being a transition.
I never said the 134's had a lighter color, just the 701's.


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There is no point to having spoke holes on a 69 car. Obviously the vendor who supplied the wheels found out about the upcoming change for 70 wheels and started producing the modified spokes early enough that they started showing up on late 69 cars. When the woodgrain color was decided to be a lighter version for 1970 they went ahead and updated it to a newer part # on the spoke because it visually was a different looking wheel.







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