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BB rocker shafts question...... #340180 06/07/09 12:17 AM 06/07/09 12:17 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	......what's the correct orientation of the rocker shaft itself on BB's not the rockers but the shaft themselves? Thanks. Moparlee

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340181 06/07/09 12:43 AM 06/07/09 12:43 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Notch down and to the left as facing it while installing it in the car. In other words, down and front on drivers side and down and rear on pass side. Oil holes facing down.

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340182 06/07/09 12:49 AM 06/07/09 12:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Oil holes down with the 15 degree angle offset towards the valve end of the rocker arms Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: mike s] #340183 06/07/09 07:49 AM 06/07/09 07:49 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	The little oiling holes point down and towards the valve springs with the slight offset that they have.

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: buildanother] #340184 06/07/09 09:18 AM 06/07/09 09:18 AM
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dynamite pro stock D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,444 NEW JERSEY	So they are interchangable ... right to left correct???

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: dynamite] #340185 06/07/09 09:26 AM 06/07/09 09:26 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	Yes

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... #340186 06/07/09 10:11 AM 06/07/09 10:11 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Quote: Notch down and to the left as facing it while installing it in the car. In other words, down and front on drivers side and down and rear on pass side. Oil holes facing down. My sb has the notches......these do not. The shafts are Mancini's harden stuff. Moparlee

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340187 06/07/09 10:39 PM 06/07/09 10:39 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Well, these shafts are like 3/16's longer than stock and they are not centered so they are longer on one side............so they stock valve covers will not go on or my M/T's. Isn't that messed up? Got any suggestions? Moparlee

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340188 06/07/09 11:04 PM 06/07/09 11:04 PM
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bb74swngr mopar addict B Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 799 Missouri	I used the Mancini shafts on my BB with Eddy heads and MP 1.6 roller rockers and have had no trouble with my stock valve covers. Russ:) BigBlock 74 Swinger

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: bb74swngr] #340189 06/07/09 11:15 PM 06/07/09 11:15 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	It figures that I would get the only messed up ones. Moparlee

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340190 06/07/09 11:18 PM 06/07/09 11:18 PM
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bb74swngr mopar addict B Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 799 Missouri	Sorry, I think I was the one that was suppose to get the messed up ones...it usually happens to me and must have somehow gotten you confused with me. Russ:) BigBlock 74 Swinger

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: bb74swngr] #340191 06/07/09 11:19 PM 06/07/09 11:19 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Moparlee

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340192 06/07/09 11:37 PM 06/07/09 11:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Well, these shafts are like 3/16's longer than stock and they are not centered so they are longer on one side............so they stock valve covers will not go on or my M/T's. Isn't that messed up? Got any suggestions?

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: JohnRR] #340193 06/08/09 09:38 AM 06/08/09 09:38 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Quote: Quote: Well, these shafts are like 3/16's longer than stock and they are not centered so they are longer on one side............so they stock valve covers will not go on or my M/T's. Isn't that messed up? Got any suggestions? John I was thinking that..........just pull the freeze plug and cut it? Clean the crap out of it and reinstall the freeze plug and call it good? Moparlee

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340194 06/08/09 10:00 AM 06/08/09 10:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	I would be inclined to send them back but if you have the right cutter you could trim it as long as that still leaves you enough recess for the plug & as you said deburr/clean it & with that dimention being off & it slipped by them be sure & check all the other hole locations also before you put any more time into this. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: RapidRobert] #340195 06/08/09 10:03 AM 06/08/09 10:03 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Quote: I would be inclined to send them back but if you have the right cutter you could trim it as long as that still leaves you enough recess for the plug & as you said deburr/clean it & with that dimention being off & it slipped by them be sure & check all the other hole locations also before you put any more time into this. Right, but I bought these a year ago.........guess i wasn't smart enough to look at them closely. Heck these haven't even had oil touch them yet. I haven't called them, but i dought if they would return them. Moparlee

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340196 06/08/09 10:06 AM 06/08/09 10:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: Quote: Well, these shafts are like 3/16's longer than stock and they are not centered so they are longer on one side............so they stock valve covers will not go on or my M/T's. Isn't that messed up? Got any suggestions? John I was thinking that..........just pull the freeze plug and cut it? Clean the crap out of it and reinstall the freeze plug and call it good? yep , it might be tough to cut , you'll need some type of carbide cutter as I assume they are hardened shafts ? I have access to a lathe at work . I'd call mancini and see if they'll exchange them . Last edited by Johnahah; 06/08/09 10:08 AM.

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Robbins] #340197 06/08/09 10:11 AM 06/08/09 10:11 AM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	You do kind of expect something simple as a rocker shaft not to have any problems so I totally understand not checking them right away & there's nothing hi tech there, if you have the right blade to take care of it & there's still enough recess for the plug & you clean/deburr it You'll be fine but if they have a toll free # you might see what they say as this is a pretty obvious defect that is preventing your valve cover from fitting & is definitely their mistake. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: RapidRobert] #340198 06/08/09 10:18 AM 06/08/09 10:18 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,873 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,873 Ontario, Canada	You'd likely never get the freze plug out in decent shape. Just knock the freeze plug further in then cut them off. Hardened or not, a chop saw, muffler cutter or metal bandsaw should do the trick - they're not tool steel !! Any heat from the cut will have no negative affect on the end. 3/16 could even be taken off with a grinder !!

Re: BB rocker shafts question...... [Re: Stanton] #340199 06/08/09 10:25 AM 06/08/09 10:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: You'd likely never get the freze plug out in decent shape. Just knock the freeze plug further in then cut them off. Hardened or not, a chop saw, muffler cutter or metal bandsaw should do the trick - they're not tool steel !! Any heat from the cut will have no negative affect on the end. 3/16 could even be taken off with a grinder !! & if the rest of the holes aren't off you could be back in business in no time. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

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