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Re: Carb tuner's please step in [Re: marvo451] #335516
06/03/09 02:16 PM
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If you are using the symbol^ as divided by, then I think you slipped a little on the calculation.
.040/2=.020,.012/2=.006 then .020-.006/0.5=.028 and not .038
But, I certainly coud be mistaken




^2 means squared and ^.5 means Squareroot.

Remember these are area of a circle calculations. Polyshere left out the Pi and radius calculations because they factor and cancel out in the calculation becoming irrelevant. You can do the full area calculations but the resulting percent of change is exactly the same and more work.

Last edited by GomangoCuda; 06/03/09 02:39 PM.

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Re: Carb tuner's please step in [Re: polyspheric] #335517
06/03/09 06:08 PM
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I'm having similar issues, albeit on a much milder engine combo. So here's a BTT.

Re: Carb tuner's please step in [Re: Bee4spd] #335518
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Bee4spd, I think Bob (the OP) is at least on the right track now, so the thread could die if you wait for more action there.

Go ahead and describe your setup and the degree to which your exhaust stinks.

Jim

Re: Carb tuner's please step in [Re: JimG] #335519
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Okey doke. My car is a '70 Super Bee around 3750lbs. with me in it. The engine combo is a 452 with indy s/r heads(no porting). Compression ratio is 9.5:1(low), cam is a solid 268 adv.(239@.050) intake and 274 adv.(247@.050) with 1.6 ratio rockers lifts come out at around .570/.556 before lash, this cam is ground on 108 degree lobes and is in straight up. Carb is a holley 830 annular. My idle doesn't smoke like the original posters does, but definitely gives you the stinging eyes and lungs affect. I've done the wire trick(going to try some thicker stuff after re-reading the calculations above), got the throttle blades set appropriately(less than .040 transfer showing), set the floats(interesting things found whilst doing this, the o-rings on the needle and seats were shreaded, replaced needles and seats). The idle quality has definitely improved, but the stink is still quite debilitating.
One question I had was: is there a point of diminshing returns with just playing with the fuel side of the equation?(ie. if I get to a certain point with the IFR's, will I have to do air bleed work?) Thanks in advance,

Brian

Re: Carb tuner's please step in [Re: Bee4spd] #335520
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One question I had was: is there a point of diminshing returns with just playing with the fuel side of the equation?(ie. if I get to a certain point with the IFR's, will I have to do air bleed work?) Thanks in advance,

Brian




Brian:

If I understand your question, the answer is no. Use the Idle Air Bleeds to fine tune. If the IAB size gets too big (my personal limit is 80, but you might be able to go larger and still see results), you'll need to drop the IFR size and start again.

You could, in theory, change IFR sizes and never touch the IABs. It's just convenient having the IABs on the outside of the carb, making tuning go much faster.

Be aware that Holley put the IFR's in two different places. Generally, the older carbs have the IFR where Bob Coomer's photo showed it. Some mostly newer carbs had it high in the block - be sure you know what you've got or you might waste time blocking a passage.

At the risk of stating the obvious, if you decide to drill and/or tap any orfices, be sure to measure and record everything first so you can get back where you were if you lose the rabbit.

Jim

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