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Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: MrBelvedere2] #333699
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Yes that is my blue 56 Plymouth Belvedere, it has a 383 in it, still mated to the powerflite, got questions? ask away!


First off, do you have pic's you can post of the engine bay? What motor mount brackets and mounts did you use? How did you mate it to the powerflight, that's a small block pattern correct? I plan on a 727 in my swap, but very interested in the block & frame mounting. Thanks

Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: rrunner] #333700
06/12/09 11:36 PM
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I have put a 383 in my 56 Coronet, but then I went with a mustang II front end.

Definitely used the 70's truck oil pan. Mine was from a 4X4 for a rear sump. I built my own mounts and actually just used the rubber cushions from a late 60's big block and built up the lower mounts on the cross frame (fat man fab frame).

I have a 727 in mine and was acutally able to use the stock crossmember for the 56 Coronet. I had to weld on a mounting bracket from another b body (just the part that holds the transmission mount) onto the existing crossmember (with a few minor cuts).

With powerbrakes I had to move the master cylinder up 5", but probably wouldn't have had to do it if I had left the old brake system in it.

Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: moposcar] #333701
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Thanks MOPO, what rear are you running?
What happened to MR.B?

Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: rrunner] #333702
06/19/09 01:23 AM
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sorry been super busy with work lately to stop in, I will get some time soon and answer your Q's... sorry!







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Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: rrunner] #333703
06/20/09 09:23 PM
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Sorry I haven't replied before....my wife just had our first little child.

Anyways, I put a 8 3/4 out of a 69 Coronet in it. I think they run about a 1/2" narrower on each side is all, but that seemed to be enough to give clearance for the tires and rims that were on it. I have also noticed there is quite a lip on the inside fender well. I may take a die grinder to that and get another 1/4" or so for room.

I just had to relocate the spring perches for the rear in it. I used the ones off the 56 rear.

Hope that helps.

Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: rrunner] #333704
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ok well first off, I bought the car like it is and somebody did the swap in the early 70's. They used some very early motor mounts called "floating power" motor mounts, from what research i've done they were in imperial and chryslers, they bolt right up to the stock K member. I would like to keep mine stock and not put a mustang II front clip on it so that works out for me. I have a rear end out of a 68 charger that's waiting to go in.

The powerflite mating up is weird indeed, from what I have been told only the early big block (4 bolt valve covers) will mate up to a powerflite and this one seems to be proof of that! and so far the powerflite holds up nicely to the big block and everything!

I am saving up to build a 440 and 727 to put in the car, the powerflite revs pretty high on the freeway.

there is another guy on here named dynamite, he put a 440 and 727 in his 56 belvedere, but he used a 1980's chrysler 5th ave. front clip and steering column, says it went right in with very little fabbing.

I have pictures i need to upload them.







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Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: MrBelvedere2] #333705
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here's an engine bay picture for you.

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Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: MrBelvedere2] #333706
06/21/09 02:51 AM
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and another one, as you can see the valve cover comes very close to the heater box, but it works.

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Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: MrBelvedere2] #333707
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and one of the other side.

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Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: moposcar] #333708
06/21/09 08:30 AM
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....my wife just had our first little child.



Congratulation
And thanks for the info Mopo and MrB

Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: MrBelvedere2] #333709
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and one of the other side.




I'd drop the single pot master cylinder. If you're NOT going to do a disc conversion from AAJ Brakes or someone similar, then at least put a dual reservoir drum brake MC on there. It's a bolt-in and well worth the piece of mind.


2 Demons...no, not my kids!
Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: 4speeds4me] #333710
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Yes after the mopar show on june 27th in sacramento, it's going down for a Full on AAJ disc brake conversion including dual pot master cylinder, thanks for the heads up...just a waiting game now....







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Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: MrBelvedere2] #333711
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If anyone has done the wide block 318/402 stroker motor w/ 727 in a 56 plymouth, let me know. I have a 2dr hardtop that had been in storage since 1978. Once my 65 Coronet project is good to go, this is next on the list. I was going to put a 383/727 combo in it, but I just picked up a poly 318 dual quad intake, and I thought that would be way too cool. I found a poly 318 out of a 63 pickup that was suppose to be a runner. I thought maybe I'd get the 402 stroker kit, and do it up. Anybody have any thoughts on it?

Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: moparmetal] #333712
05/26/10 12:08 AM
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56 Belvedere .... brings back memories

My first HP car. Bought it from a Bud .... a majorly tweaked streeter 392 Hemi .. stock trans and converter with a 2.9 8 3/4.

NOT MUCH outa-the-gate ... but it ran like-a-bear UPstairs.

HAD to sell it when I got drafted.

Re: R B motor & rear in 56 Plymouth-NEW HERE [Re: MrBelvedere2] #333713
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Yes after the mopar show on june 27th in sacramento, it's going down for a Full on AAJ disc brake conversion including dual pot master cylinder, thanks for the heads up...just a waiting game now....




ide like to see some pics of that blue 56 please,,,

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