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Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? #329199
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I have been tampering with the idea of putting springs on my wheelie bars! Mine are solid and the car hits the bars pretty hard! It used to unload the suspension because it would hit them so hard, but not anymore! Also the higher wheelies I do, the quicker the car is! Figure that one out? I want to carry the wheels a little further out and come down a little smoother. Just wondering if anyone had this issue, and other than calming the car down where it doesn't wheelie, any suggestions? ?

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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: crooksduster] #329200
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When I put my wheelie bars on, the shock manufacturer told me to avoid the spring loaded type. I hit the bars pretty hard too, so I just raised them higher and that has worked really well for me. It either doesn't go high enough to hit them at all on some tracks, or it hits them much softer if it does go that high.

Your car looks great by the way, can you give up some info on it?


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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: nhramark] #329201
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Do both of you run leaf springs


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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: 65signet] #329202
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Do both of you run leaf springs




Mine is a 4 link.


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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: nhramark] #329203
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When I put my wheelie bars on, the shock manufacturer told me to avoid the spring loaded type. I hit the bars pretty hard too, so I just raised them higher and that has worked really well for me. It either doesn't go high enough to hit them at all on some tracks, or it hits them much softer if it does go that high.

Your car looks great by the way, can you give up some info on it?



Your car is very nice! Nice launch! My motor is a 498 with Indy-1 heads! It has a flat tappet cam with 630-650 lift! Mine is a ladder bar car!

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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: crooksduster] #329204
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When I put my wheelie bars on, the shock manufacturer told me to avoid the spring loaded type. I hit the bars pretty hard too, so I just raised them higher and that has worked really well for me. It either doesn't go high enough to hit them at all on some tracks, or it hits them much softer if it does go that high.

Your car looks great by the way, can you give up some info on it?



Your car is very nice! Nice launch! My motor is a 498 with Indy-1 heads! It has a flat tappet cam with 630-650 lift! Mine is a ladder bar car!


I run almost the same motor in my car...but its 4 link and I dont even pull the fronts on a 1.32 60ft...BTW..no wheelie bars !!!...but your question is about wheelie bars...stay unsprung...the less amount of springs you have the less headache you have....try controling the wheelstands by limitng the front end travel...sounds like you could pick up some 60ft by working on the front end more.

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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: crooksduster] #329205
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how high do you have them set?

Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: Quicktree] #329206
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We run the sprung bars to soften the hit,solid bars like to unload the tires.We find different suspensions and engine combos react differently.Most cars that tend to do large wheelstands benifit from the sprung bars.

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how high do you have them set?



high!!

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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: Chassisman] #329208
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When I put my wheelie bars on, the shock manufacturer told me to avoid the spring loaded type. I hit the bars pretty hard too, so I just raised them higher and that has worked really well for me. It either doesn't go high enough to hit them at all on some tracks, or it hits them much softer if it does go that high.

Your car looks great by the way, can you give up some info on it?



Your car is very nice! Nice launch! My motor is a 498 with Indy-1 heads! It has a flat tappet cam with 630-650 lift! Mine is a ladder bar car!


I run almost the same motor in my car...but its 4 link and I dont even pull the fronts on a 1.32 60ft...BTW..no wheelie bars !!!...but your question is about wheelie bars...stay unsprung...the less amount of springs you have the less headache you have....try controling the wheelstands by limitng the front end travel...sounds like you could pick up some 60ft by working on the front end more.



I have gone 1.29-1.33 and it always pulls the tires!

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Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: crooksduster] #329209
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how high do you have them set?



high!!




set them lower (about 4-5") and I bet you see a difference.

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I run almost the same motor in my car...but its 4 link and I dont even pull the fronts on a 1.32 60ft...BTW..no wheelie

what does your car weigh Chassisman?

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My car weighs 3000 pounds with me in it! Ive lowered them to several different heights. The car loses 60'. The higher they are the quicker the car is!

Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: crooksduster] #329212
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I love doing wheelies! I was just trying to figure hour how to carry em out further and not hit the bars so hard!

Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: crooksduster] #329213
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i just converted a set of 52 inch solids to the spring loaded.

only place i could get a kit to convert them was from Alston.

in a few weeks we will see how it hits with the changes i done to the car.

still waiting on my heims to show up to hook them up

Bob

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this is a ladder bar car also

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I run almost the same motor in my car...but its 4 link and I dont even pull the fronts on a 1.32 60ft...BTW..no wheelie

what does your car weigh Chassisman?


3375 with my big frame aboard...I'm 6'1" 370....where's BIGDAD's pic when you need it....and my car has had a best of a 1.27 60ft....1.32 is where I have it set for all out....I can also adjust my 2 step to go 1.54 for marginal tracks...of course when I cut it back it only goes [Email]10.77@131[/Email]

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i just converted a set of 52 inch solids to the spring loaded.

only place i could get a kit to convert them was from Alston.

in a few weeks we will see how it hits with the changes i done to the car.

still waiting on my heims to show up to hook them up

Bob




Bob please keep me posted on how this works out for you!!Also did you do this because you were having a problem?

Re: Wheelie bars! Springs or no springs? [Re: crooksduster] #329217
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yes, the car would leave so hard off the trans break it would just un load the tires when it got on the bars.
this guy doesnt want to do big wheel stands.
the front i also limited and put a set of AFco Big Gun rear double adjustable shocks on the rear.
i will keep you posted on how the car leaves when we hit the track with it.

Bob

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When I put my wheelie bars on, the shock manufacturer told me to avoid the spring loaded type. I hit the bars pretty hard too, so I just raised them higher and that has worked really well for me. It either doesn't go high enough to hit them at all on some tracks, or it hits them much softer if it does go that high.

Your car looks great by the way, can you give up some info on it?



Your car is very nice! Nice launch! My motor is a 498 with Indy-1 heads! It has a flat tappet cam with 630-650 lift! Mine is a ladder bar car!


I run almost the same motor in my car...but its 4 link and I dont even pull the fronts on a 1.32 60ft...BTW..no wheelie bars !!!...but your question is about wheelie bars...stay unsprung...the less amount of springs you have the less headache you have....try controling the wheelstands by limitng the front end travel...sounds like you could pick up some 60ft by working on the front end more.




Thanks for the info!! I think i will try the front end limiter route first! I just don't want to kill the wheelies too much! That's my favorite part of the run!

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