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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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Stainless Stainless Stainless!!!
That would be GREAT if they never rusted!
Would that require anti-seize though?
Is it a bad idea to have anti-seize on lug nuts?
Tav
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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Several of my cars still have left hand studs and mismatched lug nuts with subtle differences. I would buy both left and right sets. As far as making right hand stamped with an L, that would be a big mistake IMO.
Not worth the confusion for the few show cars that would want them. If you're not showing your car then it doesn't matter if they have an "L" on them or not and if it did matter and correct LH lug nuts with an honest "L" on them were available the show guys would buy them anyway.
MikeR
Originally I was FOR your idea to label the RH nuts with an L, but the above post really makes sense.
I'd suggest checking into making the LH nuts & studs to see IF it's financially feasible. How many pre-orders would you need for the go ahead? I'm not interested in any myself, but it sounds like a lot of other people are. If they buy 5 sets at a time like some of them have offered, you might get your pre-orders pretty fast.
IF the money doesn’t work out for the LH nuts & studs, then I’d suggest going ahead with your original plan of stamping RH nuts with an L. Along with that, I’d suggest selling them separately from the RH nuts without the L in bags of 5 or 10. This way a person can order all RH if they want, OR the show guys that care can get some marked with an “L”.
I’m not fond of the LH threads myself, but I’d sure buy 20 of the RH thread nuts with the “pimple”, especially if the price was comparable to what mopar is currently selling their nuts for.
How much does an original LH lug nut go for these days anyway?
When I finally get around to swapping my 70 RoadRunner over to all RH threads, should I ebay my LH stuff instead of throwing it in the trash can?
Tav
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/22/09 12:03 AM
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So I didn't get right-hand thread lug nuts with a "L" on them but the photo and description in the ad did say they were. Now if someone doesn't say anything and just shows a photo of the right-hand thread lug nuts with the "L" what would you ASS-U-ME they were and bid them to the moon?
MikeR
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/22/09 04:16 AM
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I think the market for LH chrome lugnuts is bigger than just 1970 cars.
What if someone puts an aftermarket or used set of rallye rims on their 69 and down B or C body Mopar? I've seen lots of rallyes on 69 down cars. Currently, they can only get RH chrome lugnuts for it. So all of those guys are forced to convert to RH studs.
If you made LH chrome lugnuts you'd be the only game in town. Even if they didn't care about the "pimple" correctness. LH chrome lugnuts would save them the cost and time of coverting LH studs to RH studs.
I think it's safe to say if the lug nut has a nipple, R/H or L/H, you're the only game in town.
Here's what I'm going to do, I'm not going to make 3 different configurations of lug nuts.
1. R/H nut.
2. R/H with the “L”.
3. True L/H with the “L”.
Keep in mind, making all the different left hand studs from 68-70 is not realistic and not in the equation, at least for now. With that said, I think we all can agree that there is a much larger volume of cars that have all R/H lugs for reasons that the L/H studs are so hard to find and ones that were changed because an impact was put to it and broke off. That’s reality.
I will consider making the much smaller market L/H lug nut based on the sales of the R/H lug nuts. Coming to a conclusion that “you’ll sell more if the left was available also” is not realistic so I’m planning for all R/H out of the box and none will have the “L”. Since MOPAR has released lug nuts that are correct except for the nipple, that also kills a big portion of the market for all the lug nuts for customers that don’t care about the nipple. Makes no sense to have a pair with out them, go figure.
I’m projecting the selling price for a complete set of R/H around the $95 range and if we decide to do the L/H that price will increase per set for obvious reasons.
I’ve been into these old MOPARS way to long to be convinced that there is this big market for L/H lug nuts to justify making them. All of us hanging around MOPARTS, might represent 1% of the market and we tend to be the 2%’ers that demand absolute correct parts, going so far as to pulling out micrometers to check reproduction parts for correctness. Myself included.
I truly hope I’m wrong about this, I’m about as anal about “correct” as the next guy, however, this is a profit based company and we have to be very careful where the money is invested.
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
[Re: HEMICUDA]
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05/22/09 07:54 AM
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Michael, you need to do what you need and can cost effectively do, but I wonder how many non-sales of the correct dimpled lug nuts you will not have for owners with LH studs and nuts? I'm looking at a very original '69 GTX and will probably not change out the LH nuts and studs and forego the dimple ones for a set of MP or a set at the local Advance Auto....or continue to search and search ebag and swap meets for originals. Even though Moparts seems to be a small community of somewhat @n@l (to some and I use that term with passion) Mopar enthusiasts there are thousands of questions of "where can I find or who sells the best, most correct (fill in the item)" everyday, month and year. I think lots of Mopar enthusiasts have given up searching for correct left and right hand lug nuts and lug bolts/studs and HAD TO change to RH only and not because they all wanted to. Shoot we had 50+ A12 Lift-Off-Hood cars at the 2005 Carlisle and probably another 50 A12 car owners that didn't have their cars there and that is one large group of VERY @N@L owners that would account for at the least a 1000 LH correct dimpled lug nuts, in fact I think it was one of those @n@l A12 guys that first brought up the dimple subject because as you know that's the only "bling" we got when it comes to original wheels  Personally I think you are under estimating the market and demand for correct LH lug nuts and studs. If I'm wrong then we all better buy up every left hand stud and nut we can find correct or not should they all be discontinued too........ As I said I'm not going to buy a set of correct RH lug nuts if the LH nuts are not available because I'm not going to change the LH studs to RH on the Mopars I have just for a dimple. You can still find non-correct but close left and right hand lug nuts. Count me in for four complete sets of left and right hand dimpled lug nut but none if only the right hands are available. MikeR
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/22/09 10:17 AM
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I’m projecting the selling price for a complete set of R/H around the $95 range
Would the cost of the extra packaging material change the price much if you sold 1/2 set (10 nuts) in a package instead of full sets (20 nuts)?
That way the adamant LH guys could get correct stuff for one side of their car, and the rest of us could just buy two 1/2 sets.
Tav
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/22/09 11:40 AM
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I’m projecting the selling price for a complete set of R/H around the $95 range
Would the cost of the extra packaging material change the price much if you sold 1/2 set (10 nuts) in a package instead of full sets (20 nuts)?
That way the adamant LH guys could get correct stuff for one side of their car, and the rest of us could just buy two 1/2 sets.
Tav
You can just buy 1 nut if you want.
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/22/09 01:17 PM
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You know,... I'd give my left nut if you decide to make those left nuts 
How many sets do you need Terry? For you, I'll made some special L/H "L" lug nuts just for you.
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/22/09 03:37 PM
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Have you thought about wholesale possibilities?
IMO you could burn thru 500 to 1000 of each real fast , Also , keep them in full sets of 20 no individuals
Good call Bill, I'll have your 1,000 boxed up and ready to ship in about 6-7 weeks.
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/22/09 09:45 PM
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I'm moving maybe 500 of the incorrect lh chrome lug nuts a year ....they are steady sellers at $2 ea Canadian.Left hand studs are getting harder to find...most of my suppliers are running out of stock.Left hand studs for two piece rotors are getting real tuff to find.I would not make a right hand thread lug nut with a L marking ...it will not only confuse the issue but it will lead to broken parts. I think that all the hard core #'s customers I have would not even consider such a part but would rather spend the extra dough on a correct stud.And as mentioned above there are thousands of lh stud Mopars still out there....you gotta figure C bodys alone outnumber the E's by a 3 or 4 to one.
Best bet would be to make the lug nuts and studs in LH.
"Long Live Mopars"
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Re: CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
[Re: HEMICUDA]
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05/23/09 12:30 PM
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Those look nice. I'm in. 
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Re: "UPDATE" CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/28/09 04:32 AM
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Well here you go. I was able to get a limited quantity of the R/H lugs chromed in time to be loaded into the container with other parts that is leaving tomorrow. The plan is to have them with me at Carlisle. I am taking orders for sets on a first a come basis. I have secured a set of NOS L/H lugs that will also be made and they will be done as original as true L/H with the "L". I would estimate that I should have some stock as early as the Mopar Nationals. The only liberty we are taking with this piece is ours will be triple plated chrome instead of flashed chromed like the originals. So here we go guys, this pricing is based on high volumns and could go up based on soft sales. List price for a set of all 20 R/H is $69. List price for a set of 10 R/H & 10 L/H is $95. Michael C. Ross - Owner B/E & A Restoration Parts, Inc. www.beaparts.com330-725-3990 BTW Bill (GTX6970), I won't have anywhere near enough nuts in the container to fill your 1000 piece order.
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Re: "UPDATE" CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/28/09 08:20 AM
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I sold to a friend the NOS recall lugnuts .The ones they sell with the repo recall wheels arent even dead on.This is what the origanals look like.Maybe someday these will get reproduced http://www.specialtywheelsltd.org/lug-nuts.html -----------------------------7d123ef402fe Content-Disposition: form-data; name="questions" 1
1969 Daytona 440 L9B410772
1970 Coronet 500 383 Presently owned
1970 Superbird 440 U 166242
1970 Superbird 440 U 174597
1970 Superbird 440-6 V 179697
1970 Coronet RT 440 U 224126
1968 Road Runner 426 J 134509
1970 Daytona Replica 318 G 178701
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Re: "UPDATE" CORRECT "PIMPLE" TOP CHROME LUG NUTS
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05/28/09 09:46 AM
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The only liberty we are taking with this piece is ours will be triple plated chrome instead of flashed chromed like the originals.
Mike, I wonder if this was for a reason... from wrenching on items with triple chrome plating I've noticed it's damaged very easily.
Perhaps it was or should be a hard chrome plating?
Rick
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but still available:
