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Front Coil Over Conversion??? #323791
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For those of you with coil overs up front, how do you retain the lower control arm?

I'm getting ready to do the conversion on my 66 Dart. I've drilled and tapped the pivot for a 3/8" bolt. Now I'm wonder how the LCA will pivot once I weld the LCA to the socket.

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Well I say this..I don't think you should weld the lower control arm....it will not move then..I know some do it.. but seems wrong to me.

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Well I say this..I don't think you should weld the lower control arm....it will not move then..I know some do it.. but seems wrong to me.




If you don't weld it, the LCA will pivot on the socket. I wouldn't think that metal to metal contact would be good.

I was planning on using a poly bushing so the pivot action is on it.

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It does that anyhow..will pivot the same amount as if it had the t-bars in it..

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But with torsion bars, the socket and the LCA pivot as a unit because of the preload that is placed on the socket by the adjusting bolt. The movement is with the bushing and the torsion bar itself. With no torsion bars, I would think you'd have to drill and tap the back of the pivot shaft and bolt the LCA socket to the pivot, which would hold the socket solid. Then the LCA would constantly rub against the socket as the suspension cycled.

I'm really just thinking outloud though. I'm really just trying to free up some header space for my BB 66 dart build.

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drill and tap the back of the pivot shaft and bolt and put a washer on it so the LCA can't off..I thought you had done that by your first post.the LCA will move up and down free..If you weld it it will not...it realy is not going to move that much anyhow..never-seize..on everything there would be good..This has been talk about here before and turns in to a pissing match about it..some of us racers have got together and held a LCA in our hands..and talk about it. for a race car you need a free moving front end..welding makes it very stiff. and not good for a drag car.
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But with torsion bars, the socket and the LCA pivot as a unit because of the preload that is placed on the socket by the adjusting bolt. The movement is with the bushing and the torsion bar itself. With no torsion bars, I would think you'd have to drill and tap the back of the pivot shaft and bolt the LCA socket to the pivot, which would hold the socket solid. Then the LCA would constantly rub against the socket as the suspension cycled.

I'm really just thinking outloud though. I'm really just trying to free up some header space for my BB 66 dart build.



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drill and tap the back of the pivot shaft and bolt and put a washer on it so the LCA can't off..I thought you had done that by your first post.the LCA will move up and down free..If you weld it it will not...it realy is not going to move that much anyhow..never-seize..on everything there would be good..This has been talk about here before and turns in to a pissing match about it..some of us racers have got together and held a LCA in our hands..and talk about it. for a race car you need a free moving front end..welding makes it very stiff. and not good for a drag car.
I under stand on the headers LOL I got a BB dart !

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But with torsion bars, the socket and the LCA pivot as a unit because of the preload that is placed on the socket by the adjusting bolt. The movement is with the bushing and the torsion bar itself. With no torsion bars, I would think you'd have to drill and tap the back of the pivot shaft and bolt the LCA socket to the pivot, which would hold the socket solid. Then the LCA would constantly rub against the socket as the suspension cycled.

I'm really just thinking outloud though. I'm really just trying to free up some header space for my BB 66 dart build.





the way Jamie told you is the way I did mine several years ago and I have had no problem's doing it that way.


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