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904 converter recommendation? #3232340
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I'm in the market for a new converter for my 360 powered street/strip 68 Cuda and wondering what manufacturers/builders you guys have had good luck with? The last time I bought a new converter was an 8" ATI back 25+ years ago and wondering who I should be calling now.

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Re: 904 converter recommendation? [Re: Valiant_Showoff] #3232397
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personally…… street / strip? I’d seek someone fairly local. Will save time and shipping $$$, especially if you seek changes. Many here have their favorites that the next guy would only use as a door stop. Make some phone calls. Get a repore/comfort level. I’ve used the same guy since 94, but he’s retired.

Re: 904 converter recommendation? [Re: J_BODY] #3232398
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I have ATI, Coan, PTC, Midwest, and TCI. The only one I am not wild about is the TCI, but I bought it cheap and used, so there's that.

I had PTC repair the ATI, and service was great.

As Jay said, you're going to get lots of answers, all different.


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Re: 904 converter recommendation? [Re: slantzilla] #3232418
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Depends. No info on your combination or is it a race car with tags or a street car that goes to the track occasionally.

Coan is close to you. He does some really nice stuff.

Budget? A good race piece will be close to or over 4 figures. An old shelf 3500 10", not so much.


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Re: 904 converter recommendation? [Re: CMcAllister] #3232452
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360 stock stroke
10.2 compression
Cam 241/247 duration at 050, .545 lift, 110 lobe separation / hydraulic
Eagle rods
Lightweight Ross pistons
LD340 intake
Holley 800 double pumper
Doug’s D-453 headers/2.5 exhaust
3.91 gears
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Re: 904 converter recommendation? [Re: Valiant_Showoff] #3232482
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I really like my 9.5” PTC. I would reach out to one of the big names and provide as much info as possible. I bought my 727 9.5” PTC and my 904 9.5 PTC through John Cope and for me, converter is EVERYTHING.


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Re: 904 converter recommendation? [Re: Valiant_Showoff] #3232665
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There's a great local company right here in NEO. Perfect Converter AKA 501 Performance. Myself and many others in the area are using them and they are awesome to work with. Definitely worth calling them and talking about your needs. Talk to Bubba Rafferty or Logan Siegman. They are pretty big sponsors at Dragway 42 and work a lot with B3R racing and many other shops. Tell em Russ recommended you.

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Whoever you choose spend the money and get the A500 style pump gears and use the A500 style converter snout. I have had problems with 904 converter snouts cracking or breaking even the "heavy duty" thicker ones. I have used the A500 style for 6 years no with no trouble.

I have had great luck with turbo action converters but I have never tried anywhere else. I used a Turbo Action 8" 4500 behind my 11:1 360 with edelbrock heads for street and strip use. I use that same converter now with my 418" motor but it flashes much higher behind the 418" motor.


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Originally Posted by max_maniac
There's a great local company right here in NEO. Perfect Converter AKA 501 Performance. Myself and many others in the area are using them and they are awesome to work with. Definitely worth calling them and talking about your needs. Talk to Bubba Rafferty or Logan Siegman. They are pretty big sponsors at Dragway 42 and work a lot with B3R racing and many other shops. Tell em Russ recommended you.


Talked to 501 today. Sounds like a good option.

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Originally Posted by moparx
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Right up there with PTC. (yeah….. I went there)

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I’m also a “fan” of the A500 pump gear….. both of my 904 trans are equipped with them…… and Lenny knew exactly what I was talking about and had the drive hubs in stock for building my converter.

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ATI. They are the only current company that uses all new components.

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Originally Posted by J_BODY
I’m also a “fan” of the A500 pump gear….. both of my 904 trans are equipped with them…… and Lenny knew exactly what I was talking about and had the drive hubs in stock for building my converter.

I assume the converter stub has to be changed for that? What’s the reason to change?

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Originally Posted by Leigh
ATI. They are the only current company that uses all new components.


That is not a true statement - most of the converter components today come from sonnex - several companies out there use new converter cores and all new components - However I believe ATI still has the new 8" cores.

But most have moved away from the 8" and gone to the 9.5'-10" billet body which makes for a better converter

Re: 904 converter recommendation? [Re: cudaman1969] #3232931
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by J_BODY
I’m also a “fan” of the A500 pump gear….. both of my 904 trans are equipped with them…… and Lenny knew exactly what I was talking about and had the drive hubs in stock for building my converter.

I assume the converter stub has to be changed for that? What’s the reason to change?


Yes that is the reason for the change, the snouts with the "flats" like the A500 pump gear uses do not crack in the slots (they don't have them) like the older snouts.

Our experience is even the strongest chrome moly snouts will crack using the old style with the slots for the pump drive.

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by J_BODY
I’m also a “fan” of the A500 pump gear….. both of my 904 trans are equipped with them…… and Lenny knew exactly what I was talking about and had the drive hubs in stock for building my converter.

I assume the converter stub has to be changed for that? What’s the reason to change?


Yes that is the reason for the change, the snouts with the "flats" like the A500 pump gear uses do not crack in the slots (they don't have them) like the older snouts.

Our experience is even the strongest chrome moly snouts will crack using the old style with the slots for the pump drive.


In Australia, we machine the pump to take a Borg Warner 35 pump bush, and run a stepped converter snout. No cracking


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Can you elaborate on that bushing change?







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