Parts sharing in auto industry
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I'm very curious just how many parts are shared in the big 3 in new car manufacturing. Do you think or know they all use the same a/c compressors, starters, maybe even lifters and other engine parts? I know they aren't manufacturing their own stuff like they use to. The days when you could tell a Chrysler starter from a Phord or Chebbie are gone. They all sound the same to me. And we hear of lifter problems with Chrysler stuff and same for Chebbie.
Anyone know if they all have the same suppliers for many items?
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Re: Parts sharing in auto industry
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Buying parts off the rack, so to speak, ha been going on for a LONG time. Saves the company the expenses of designing, testing, building, stocking, etc for something where that's already available, right ?
The factory radio in our family's '57 Plymouth was made by Philco, owned at the time by Ford. Budd & Motor Wheel wheels are another example, and there are probably dozens more.
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The high idle solenoid on the '69 A12 3x2 Holley carburetors is a Delco Remey HIS as used on the Pontiac trips of that era. Don't think it's just the big three, look at the Bosch, Keihin, etc. EFI, several manufactures of automatic transmission, Brembo brake system of Italy, on and on and on. It's been a World market for parts and components for decades and decades we Americans sometimes don't like to hear that. And don't get me started on Harley Davidson and Indian and the non-USA components on them like the electronics and instruments, EFI and previously Keihin carburetors and KYB shocks and front forks and again on and on and on. Remember when there was a shortage of paint metallic from the Pacific Rim or was that just Japan?
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Re: Parts sharing in auto industry
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I understand the outsourcing that's been going on, but are all of the big 3 now using same components on a lot of stuff, such as starters, alternators, lifters a/c compressors and more when traditionally while they did source stuff out, most major engine and electrical components were in house? I mean is it occurring much more now than before in order to cut costs or do you thing it's about the same?
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Re: Parts sharing in auto industry
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Re: Parts sharing in auto industry
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What used to be Detroit's big 3 have become pat of the worlds big 5 or 6 (and maybe less then that). Many parts and pieces are shared within each mega corporation's branches. Those major parts (picking on starters and such) may have mounting points and other minor changes from one vehicle to the next, but the over all part has the same design and probably the same world manufacturer. The minor changes are probably part of the thought process so those parts have to be bought from the car branch sales department, or their approved sales outlets. The automotive aftermarket parts companies are always fighting with the auto manufacturers to be able to sell those brand specific parts to the general public.
Its all part of the plan from the major auto companies to squeeze more money out of the people. The plan is working well for them. This is kind of what I figured. As I mentioned all starters sound the same, granted different mounting, and I figure so many other things shared. Wondered if anyone in the industry might know about specific shared parts too, like lifters etc.
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Re: Parts sharing in auto industry
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Everything old is new again........ Ain't it ironic though how when AMC did it, they were chided for it. Today, the companies are doing it simply to survive.... and they're lauded for it. Though I do wish we could get back to maybe a dozen type of headlight bulbs and half a dozen mufflers. That would save money.
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Everything old is new again........ AMC was an amateur compared to IHC. I remember buying points for a '64 Loadstar with the 304 and the counterman asking if it had the Delco, Prestolite, Holley, or Autolite distributor.
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AMC was an amateur compared to IHC. I remember buying points for a '64 Loadstar with the 304 and the counterman asking if it had the Delco, Prestolite, Holley, or Autolite distributor. Years ago I bought a NOS Delco Remy Mag Pulse distributor for an International IH V8-549. The brown D309 distributor cap (cha ching) and the mag pulse pick-up was the same for Corvette, but the epay seller had no idea that those items would fit anything other than another IHC. Studebaker was along the same lines as AMC. Black Prestolite electronic ignition boxes in 1963 and 1964, Delco distributors in 60 and 61. Delco coils back to 57. Dana 27, 44, and 45 rear axles. Transmissions from Borg Warner. About the only thing that was 100% Studebaker in the drivetrain was the engine.
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Everything old is new again........ AMC was an amateur compared to IHC. I remember buying points for a '64 Loadstar with the 304 and the counterman asking if it had the Delco, Prestolite, Holley, or Autolite distributor. ohgodohgodohgod Suddenly recall taking care of a fleet of IHCs. without a line setting ticket fun fun fun
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Re: Parts sharing in auto industry
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New Process transfer cases and Dana axles come to mind.
Those were under almost every heavy duty truck and 4x4 regardless of the name on the tailgate.
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Re: Parts sharing in auto industry
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What used to be Detroit's big 3 have become pat of the worlds big 5 or 6 (and maybe less then that). Many parts and pieces are shared within each mega corporation's branches. Those major parts (picking on starters and such) may have mounting points and other minor changes from one vehicle to the next, but the over all part has the same design and probably the same world manufacturer. The minor changes are probably part of the thought process so those parts have to be bought from the car branch sales department, or their approved sales outlets. The automotive aftermarket parts companies are always fighting with the auto manufacturers to be able to sell those brand specific parts to the general public. Its all part of the plan from the major auto companies to squeeze more money out of the people. The plan is working well for them. This aligns with my expectations. As I pointed out earlier, all starters have a similar sound, albeit with different mounting, and I suspect many other components are also shared among them. I'm curious if anyone in the industry might have insights into shared parts, such as lifters, among these starters.
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